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1 posted on 04/13/2011 12:43:19 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Video: A Question of Eligibility (Full Movie!) Very informative!

http://youtu.be/mUmVFTUyEOM

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550


2 posted on 04/13/2011 12:45:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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Whatever information is there Obumer has spent million’s trying to protect and the MSM has done a full court press ennobling him. If it was a Republican they would string his testicles on a rack until he came clean.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 12:48:19 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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While I still have a hard time believing Osama was born in Kenya

I never had any beliefs that Obama was born anywhere else but in the United States. But, so far that has not been confirmed. So, nobody can say for sure.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House and he were a natural born citizen, since when do we just ignore verifying with documents? That's the biggest point. Try getting a drivers license without anything but your word.

Even if all were fine with the birth certificate, he still needs to show it. We do not go by an individual's word in this nation. This is not Kenya. Furthermore, you cannot be President if a parent was not a US Citizen at the time of birth. Not that any of Obama's parents were not US Citizens or anything (we can't know for sure - the long form has that information.) Unless it was doctored.

But we cannot just accept an individual's word. If we did that, today's anchor babies could be tomorrow's President, today's illegal alien could be tomorrow's Commander In Chief. This really has nothing to do with President Obama. It has to do with the US Constitution and the presidence that's being set.

To accept his or anybody's word and their word alone is to open up a can of worms for all future Presidents, and voters for that matter. Obama's failure to show the appropriate documents to prove his eligibility sets a precedence for all future Presidents. If President Obama does have documents to prove his eligibility then why should anybody else?

As Bill Clinton may have said "It's the presidence, stupid!"

4 posted on 04/13/2011 12:50:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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If Trump has nothing, produces nothing, ends up blowing all this media hype he's churned into a boil... that window comes and goes the media will eviscerate him...

Trump doesn't have to produce squat. That burden is on 0bama and no one else.
5 posted on 04/13/2011 12:51:43 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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I am warming to the idea he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, ...

I believe that is an established fact.

...became an Indonesian citizen...

As I understand it there is no documented proof of 0bama's Indonesian citizenship but foreign children can't be enrolled in Indonesian schools.

... and most likely obtained an Indonesian passport which allowed his travels to Pakistan and beyond.

He could have traveled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport.

10 posted on 04/13/2011 12:57:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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I don’t know that Trump actually has anything. He’s just asking questions that should have been pursued long ago, but for whatever reason the current oval office occupant got a free pass on.

Calling someone a birther seems to me to say about them that they’re claiming something, when I think that it’s less than a single percent of them that are claiming anything, just also asking reasonable questions, as Trump is now. Some do propose theories, sure. But who really knows? The facts aren’t overwhelming, and some claims are still made even after they’ve been refuted, doing nobody any favors.

I don’t know if he was born in Hawaii. He might very well have been. Others here have pointed out to me that’s not even enough to be a natural born citizen since his father was a British subject by way of Kenya and his mother was under age. Who to believe? I’m learning about this as I go.

I think it’s reasonable to also ask about Indonesian citizenship, name change, foreign aid and registering as a foreign student to get it, and if there was Saudi financing of his time at Harvard to explain his humiliating bow to their king.

Trump’s a smart man. He’s not pretending to have any unique access to the truth as far as I can tell. He has greater resources than most though, so maybe he’ll be more able to get answers to these questions, which to me seem legitimate ones for citizens to ask of someone who wants to be their president.


14 posted on 04/13/2011 1:04:26 AM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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http://www.catholicbook.com/catholicbook/Obama%20summary.htm


15 posted on 04/13/2011 1:04:32 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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For any republican who is afraid of Donald Trump and just wishes he’d go away. It’s simple, get Congress to do the job they should have done back in 2008. Tell them to do it now so that this eligibility issue is no longer on the table.

They did it when they questioned McCain’s eligibility back in 2008.

Tell Boehner to start Congressional hearings like they did against McCain.

It’s as simple as that.

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550


18 posted on 04/13/2011 1:13:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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I am not a fan of Trump. I have NO clue what he is attempting to do. Could well be he is ‘the’ pawn assigned to take the PC ‘heat’, so as the imam BamBamKennedy can say his origins have all been aired.

What makes me suspicious is the bullying tactic of the Donald that IF the Republicans do not ‘pick’ him he might run as Independent... That means whatever votes he can pick left and right will leave BamBamKennedy sitting high and mighty in the ‘catbird's seat.

The Donald is as neck deep in liberal politics as any high playing liberal and he sure is not itching much about whose campaigns he has supposedly had to feather in order to keep his business opportunities afloat.

BamBamKennedy has NO memory as to where he was born and it sure is sleazy the ‘I am’ manner in which he ducks and HIDES everything about his past. I remember what the left did to Joe the Plumber just for NOT gushing over BamBamKennedy's planned redistribution of this nation's wealth.

I am also most suspicious given it was old Hillry that birthed the ‘birthers’. AND it was for her political purposes that it got birthed. BUT the political climate, (talk about man made climate), was NOT allowing for any questioning of anything BamBamKennedy else the most feared epithet would be necklaced about anyone who said a discouraging word.

There is NO doubt BamBamKennedy is hiding something, what I have NO clue. But I do not trust that the Donald is doing what he is doing for the interest and the good of this nation. Whatever his purposes are, they are first and foremost self serving.

22 posted on 04/13/2011 1:20:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

23 posted on 04/13/2011 1:24:01 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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save for a later read


26 posted on 04/13/2011 1:27:09 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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Has ANYONE come up with a plausible excuse for withholding
the birth certificate, assuming there is one, other then it having damnable information that would disqualify him for POTUS?

All of this rubbish out of Fukino about all original
birth certificates being destroyed, or whatever, is all just
smoke and mirrors.
Yes, there is smoke OK, and no doubt, plenty of fire.


29 posted on 04/13/2011 1:36:08 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud to be a Birther.)
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Bump for further reading.


34 posted on 04/13/2011 1:49:17 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
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Here is something I like to post from time to time:
 
 
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (338)
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

35 posted on 04/13/2011 1:49:24 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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Trump has been hired by ‘Top Management’ to do a little ‘dry work’.

Don’t focus on Hillary! or you’ll miss the overall.

Think Global...What country would benefit the most from the exposure and removal of the Kenyan Usurper?


43 posted on 04/13/2011 2:33:23 AM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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Probably the biggest reason why the MSM is so entrenched in defending Obama is less ideological and more related to legality. to have to admit, after three years, that they messed up because a black man was finally going to become president is too much to have to admit. A lawsuit based on this could bankrupt most of the networks.


45 posted on 04/13/2011 2:36:31 AM PDT by Jonty30
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“... why do we think that Trump will find what they couldn’t?”
Raum Emanuel’s brother is Trump’s agent. Perhaps Raum isn’t happy about being drubbed out of the administration. He would know where the bodies are buried. Perhaps Trump’s contribution to Raum’s campaign is part of the deal.

Revenge? It’s the Chicago way. Just sayin.

I don’t know what the problem is, but it is obvious there is one. No sane person spends millions to fight lawsuits to keep it hidden when a $12 copy would do.


46 posted on 04/13/2011 2:37:37 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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I don’t trust Donald Trump as a Republican. He could be sent by Democrats to do some stunt that would discredit birthers.
We’ll just have to see, I guess. I’m not saying that I don’t like hearing it. I do. But the birth certificate message is a popular one and someone like Herman Cain might want to carry it, or Bachmann, or Palin. Palin attacking Obama was the political highlight of summer/fall 08.

Would you like to see Palin up there calling Obama a Kenyan? Or an Indonesian. Or so just say “we don’t know his real name. I’m gonna call him Barry Soetoro. Because that was his real name when he was an Indonesian Muslim.” And they’ll freak. But you’re going direct right in to that really weak spot in Obamas background. And there’s that picture of that Indonesian school form with Soetoro and Islam on it.

I just don’t think Donald Trump and President go together. I’ll take Mark Cuban instead.


57 posted on 04/13/2011 3:10:31 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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DONALD TRUMP:
I am saying I want to see the birth certificate. It’s very simple. I want to see the birth certificate. How come his own family doesn’t know which hospital he was born in? How come– forget about birth certificates. Let’s say there’s no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the…in the hospital itself, there’s no records of his birth. In other words, it doesn’t say how much they paid, where is the doctor, here’s your room bill. You know, all the...

MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?

DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking.

MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?

DONALD TRUMP:
Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious–

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/04/07/they-cannot-believe-what-theyre-finding/
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62 posted on 04/13/2011 3:37:55 AM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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You cannot even get a drivers license or marriage license with the certification of live birth Hussein presented.

Here is the difference:

http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/BirthCerts/Archive/Birth_Certificate.htm


63 posted on 04/13/2011 3:38:52 AM PDT by IH8DEMS (.)
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