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VANITY: Kurt Cobain died 17 years ago today...
Self ^ | 4/5/11 | Self

Posted on 04/05/2011 12:08:25 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

.... and the question remains: Did he ruin Rock, or was he a musical genius?


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: cobain; davegrohl; grunge; kurtcobain; nirvana; seattlesound
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

He was a musical genius. He is from my hometown and he attended school with my brother (in fact my brother still remains good friends with Novoselic) but Kurt was a troubled young man from a depressed, troubled region.

It showed in his music and in his life. Everytime I hear Nirvana, I hear Aberdeen. That music was the cry of hundreds of kids coming of age in Grays Harbor County, Wa to realize their were no more logging jobs for them, no more jobs in the fishing industry and their parents’ hippy/environmental wacko generation had literally driven their kids’ futures away.

Nirvana’s music was the cry of that generation. It was rebellion against depression.


21 posted on 04/05/2011 12:17:45 PM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Who?


22 posted on 04/05/2011 12:20:06 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Solution to Libya's problem: They want a new Muslim leader, I say, give them ours...2 problm solved!)
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To: dfwgator; GodBlessRonaldReagan

Smells Like Teen Spirit (Nirvana Cover)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htR1LFLG8Bg&feature=channel_video_title


23 posted on 04/05/2011 12:20:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

They weren’t even the best Seattle band, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden blew them away.


24 posted on 04/05/2011 12:20:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Being a teen in the late 1980’s early 1990’s who grew up with 80’s rock, I'll never be able to forgive Nirvana and the whole Grunge movement for killing off the big hair bands. I hated everything about them, the look, the sound, the attitude, everything. At least the rock bands of the 80’s were about fast cars, “faster” women and one big party all the time. Nirvana was about what? Life sucks, we're so depressed we can barely get out of bed. We even look like we dressed in drab colors and just got out of a mental ward. Even today, long after grunge has come and thankfully gone, I still race for the off button when one of the songs comes on the radio.
25 posted on 04/05/2011 12:23:34 PM PDT by apillar
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To: thefactor
He was a genius who changed rock forever. But some here are stuck in the 70’s.

Agreed. His style was a completely new direction from hair bands, 80's pop music and late 80's rap.
26 posted on 04/05/2011 12:23:42 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Let me be clear.............")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I look it at this way, we got the Foo Fighters out of the deal. A win as far as I am concerned.


27 posted on 04/05/2011 12:23:57 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: OB1kNOb

“Weird Al” Yankovic - Smells Like Nirvana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FklUAoZ6KxY


28 posted on 04/05/2011 12:24:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Who?


29 posted on 04/05/2011 12:24:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Artemis Webb

IMO, Kilmer (a true artist) said it best...

To A Young Poet Who Killed Himself

When you had played with life a space
And made it drink and lust and sing,
You flung it back into God’s face
And thought you did a noble thing.

“Lo, I have lived and loved,” you said,
“And sung to fools too dull to hear me.
Now for a cool and grassy bed
With violets in blossom near me.”

Well, rest is good for weary feet,
Although they ran for no great prize;
And violets are very sweet,
Although their roots are in your eyes.

But hark to what the earthworms say
Who share with you your muddy haven:
“The fight was on — you ran away.
You are a coward and a craven.

“The rug is ruined where you bled;
It was a dirty way to die!
To put a bullet through your head
And make a silly woman cry!

You could not vex the merry stars
Nor make them heed you, dead or living.
Not all your puny anger mars
God’s irresistible forgiving.

“Yes, God forgives and men forget,
And you’re forgiven and forgotten.
You might be gaily sinning yet
And quick and fresh instead of rotten.

And when you think of love and fame
And all that might have come to pass,
Then don’t you feel a little shame?
And don’t you think you were an ass?”


30 posted on 04/05/2011 12:25:08 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
nor did anything about the whole grunge movement.

Aw, c'mon.....FLANNEL!!!!!!
31 posted on 04/05/2011 12:25:08 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Let me be clear.............")
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To: apillar

So did you wear a “Winger” T-Shirt, like Stewart on Beavis and Butthead? ;)


32 posted on 04/05/2011 12:25:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Grunthor
Nirvana’s music was the cry of that generation. It was rebellion against depression.

Cobain's music was not nearly as effective when it came to curing depression as his shotgun was.

33 posted on 04/05/2011 12:26:05 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

He is no more talented than any other dead musician. Just another crybaby dumb kid that thought his life was tougher than any other.


34 posted on 04/05/2011 12:27:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

At 57, music doesn’t mean as much to me as it once did. I can go for weeks and months without listening to any music at all, and not miss it. That said, I grew up on rock, and was glad to see grunge come along, including Nirvana. I’m sorry Cobain died so young.


35 posted on 04/05/2011 12:29:06 PM PDT by pallis
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
When Shemp replaced Curlie as the 3rd Stooge, did this herald a New Hollywood, a New American Culture, indeed a New World Vanguard wherein the Substitute, lacking in the talent and charisma of the Original, would usher in a plasticized paragon, giving rise to a techno-savy, yet analytically impoverished, Model for Humanity?

Your thoughts.
36 posted on 04/05/2011 12:32:23 PM PDT by jobim
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To: apillar

Do you still wear spandex and lipstick?

I can never give enough thanks to bands like Guns and Roses, Metallica, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, AIC, Stone Temple Pilots, etc., for destroying hair-band music. I was embarrased to be in HS in the last 1980s, and looking at photos of the hair-band followers back then, I can only wonder how they feel about looking that ridiculous.

I will give Motley Crue and Ratt credit for making very good music, though, and Crue only went neon for a while because Vince Neil took the band that direction.


37 posted on 04/05/2011 12:33:43 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Agreed but the conspiracy theorist in me never bought the suicide story.


38 posted on 04/05/2011 12:35:12 PM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: dfwgator

Kids today owe parts of their music, style, clothing, speech, and even hairstyles directly to Cobain. And most of them don’t even know it.


39 posted on 04/05/2011 12:36:37 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Kids today owe parts of their music, style, clothing, speech, and even hairstyles directly to Cobain. And most of them don’t even know it.

Neil Young sported that same look 20 years before Cobain.

40 posted on 04/05/2011 12:37:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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