Posted on 04/03/2011 2:06:30 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Wreckage from Air France jet found in Atlantic
Wreckage from an Air France jet lost over the Atlantic nearly two years ago with 288 people on board has been found, French investigators say.
With the cause of the crash still unknown, a fourth attempt to locate the plane's voice and data recorders got under way last month.
Searchers located wreckage during the past 24 hours, investigators in Paris said, without giving details.
Flight 447 from Rio de Janeiro to Paris came down in a storm on 1 June 2009.
A French judge recently filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France over the crash.
Airbus, the maker of the jet, says no one can know for sure how the crash occurred unless the so-called "black boxes" are found.
The search has been financed jointly by Air France and Airbus. It involves dives to depths of up to 4,000m (13,120ft) with the use of special robots to examine the ocean floor between Brazil and West Africa.
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1500 quatloos anyone?
Now we are going to hear Gaddafi did it so they can rush in the ground forces and kill him.
Officially, so far, the ‘findings’ blame the pilots and their training.
Essentially the pilots encountered atypical icing conditions after flying into bad tropical weather (thunderstorms) which caused the flight computers to “give up” flying the aircraft on autopilot.
When the crew took over, they APPARENTLY (deduced from telemetry) operated the controls in a manner that put the aircraft outside the controlled flight envelope, lost control of the aircraft, and the plane ‘flat spun’ onto the surface of the ocean like a frisbee. Forensics on bodies and aircraft structures recovered indicated ‘vertical compression’ which led investigators to conclude the pancake impact.
NOW ... if we have the FDRs we can work with more than a few cryptic telemetry signals and forensics.
Personally I think the pilots will NOT be exonerated, but, this was a situation they did not (apparently) adequately train on. Blame Air France. OTHER airbus aircraft and flight crews have emerged successfully on the other side of similar instrumentation/flight computer malfunctions.
Also, other aircraft with the old pitot tubes like this ship have had failures that the crew handled.
When fly by wire fails on cruise/autopilot, the crew has seconds to save the aircraft; apparently that did not happen.
**IF** real data can be retrieved, it’ll answer a LOT of questions and stop a lot of conjecture.
What is a “quatloo”?
I thought they already figured it out. Pitot tubes super-freezing up.
I'll bet the storm caused it.
A French judge recently filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France over the crash.
Is that common in France over accidents?
The monetary unit of Triskelion, commonly used in purchases and wagering.
Other flight crews have successfully dealt with failed pitot tube readings.
‘They’ believe this was the START of the crash. ‘They’ believe the flight crew did not properly address the situation. Again, other flight crews HAVE dealt with the pitot business successfully.
NOW we’ll get more data, hopefully.
Right. Being an Airbus caused it to crash. Which is why every flight ever operated with Airbus equipment has crashed.
OK, thanks.
You might explain to him that Quatloos comes from the original Star Trek series, that could prove to be helpful.
They have trial lawyers just like we do.......
"Yeah... right!"
Do some reading and look at their safety record of late.
Wow, a flat spin from 30k, what a horrible way to go for the passengers, unless the g forces caused them to pass out.
Star Trek TOS, "The Gamesters of Triskelion".
BS. The most likely cause is that the pilot hit the q-corner and lost control.
If you look at the history of crashes most of involve Boesing jets and pilot error.
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