If Obama has taught us anything, it is that anyone can be President!
Both Gerald Ford and Ronald Regan were adopted.
What is wrong with working for a living.
Most people would get tired of the amount of golf you get to play.
Your legal parents are your only parents. I would say that even if they adopted you from another country, you are natural born. But I think this should be part of an amendment to the Constitution, along with a full definition of “natural born citizen.
It should be clearly stated that to be a natural born citizen, you must be born to or adopted to (before the age of 10 or some other reasonable age) citizens of the USA, and born on American soil or to parents serving in the diplomatic corps or the military.
This was not an issue before Obama.
Nothing to be bothered about. You were born in the USA. That's enough. Don't believe that nonsense about needing two citizen parents to be eligible for president. Some birther made that up in Nov. of 2008 when the birth certificate issue failed to gain traction. No one prior to the Fall of 2008 believed two citizen parents were necessary, and no judge or constitutional scholar believes it today.
If you want proof, we've had several presidential and vice presidential candidates in the past whose parents weren't citizens when they were born. No one ever brought up the issue back then. There's a reason.
You’re adopted parents names are the only thing that changes on the Birth Certificate. The location, date, time etc remain the same. It should only be an issue if you were foreign born.
I was adopted at 8 weeks.
I have my birth certificate with my name given at birth, hospital in a location-state in the Northeast, U.S. This does not have the names of my parents on the BC, but has the doctor's signature.
I also have my adoption certificate with change of name given by my adoptive parents who were U.S. citizens.
I never cared to search for my natural born parents. My real parents I considered my adoptive parents.
You do not need the name of your birth parents. You were born on American soil, you were adopted by citizens of this country and resided with them in this country.
Who cares what my birth-parents name is..never an issue.
Gerald Ford, the 38th US President, was adopted.
Gee it’s too bad FDR didn’t give away the Panama canal before McCain was born there. We had to wait 40-odd yrs. for Jimma Carter to pull that off
/sarc
It’s my understanding that under international treaty, adopted children are issued a new birth certificate in their new country, and are considered de facto natural born citizens. Of course, that’s never been tested in a court, but I think that’s the prevailing legal wisdom on the matter.
Obama’s adoption by his mother’s Indonesian husband (Soetoro), and his enrollment in an Indonesian-citizen-only school, only raise more questions...+
There is an amended notation on your birth certificate, just as there is on mine.
If you were required to submit your BC I think we would want to know what is contained in the sealed file as pertains to your birth.
I luckily have known my real father my entire life and don’t fully understand the reasons for giving my name up. But that is a long time and I just don’t care anymore.
In fact, I pass by his house every 6 weeks. I have this favorite drive that I had since I can remember.
I drive up the coast from Half Moon Bay, Drive down to Pacifica and pass by both my grannies homes, before reaching a home I lived in for few years.
Sometimes I sit outside that home and think.
Then I drive over to my other grandma and grandpa home and on the way pass an apartment I lived in.
Amazingly, as I round the corner towards my grandpa and grandma, there is this lot that has been empty since I was at least 4. I know because I would walk from the apartment to my grandma and grandpa and sometimes think it was as big as lake, when it was filled with water. Which seemed to be always in memory.
On the way sometimes I would stop to see my aunt, on my father’s side. She owned a bookstore.
But I would always end up at Grandma’s because she had the sweetest smile and the bluest eyes. She always had food and if she didn’t she would make something.
She was a very inquisitive Grandma. Always full of questions and hugged you so hard it hurt or took your breath away.
There’s more and that’s on my real father’s side, who gave my name up so my Dad could adopt me.
Done
I wish I was adopted.
If you can provide a birth certificate that shows that you were born in the United States, you can be President.
What we are looking at is the possibility that Zer0 was born in Kenya or that he became an Indonesian citizen when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.
This is a great post that should get a lot of feed back. I think the constitution is pretty clear and the proof lies on the candidate. I’m sure “sealed” records are never really sealed ex background checks for new higher in any one of several of the alphabets. The irony is under their background check requirements Obama couldn’t be hired as things now stand
Hell no!
Of course you can run for president. Anyone can run for president.
However, you could possibly face challenges on legal or constitutional grounds, unless you run as a democommie.
It depends on wether you run as a Democrat or a Repulican.
NBC is a child born on U.S. soil of citizen parents.
NBC is not a “status” it is a condition. You either are or you are not. It is 1) citizenship that needs no other act or sanction. That is why there is no statute or procedure that confers NBC. 2) It's purpose (along with the 14 year residency requirement of Article 2) is to ensure there are no possible foreign entanglements to your life, via your parents.
Once born, your parents can change and your citizenship can change. Each of these changes, if formalized would require some application of positive law...court action, statutory grant of citizenship, etc. But your NBC status cannot change unless you voluntarily relinquish it by swearing off your allegiance and taking an oath to another country.
NBC has never been a direct subject of case law (spoken of only in dicta), because it has never been a contemporaneous issue until the usurper. Only recently was it proven that Chester Aurthur was not NBC because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. This fact was successfully hidden.
All U.S. Presidents other than Arther until the usurper were either NBC or grandfathered in (for the presidents born before the adoption of the Constitution). So this has never really been an issue. Remember, something over 90% of Americans are natural born so it's not like we don't have enough people to choose from.
All those who post otherwise from above are just plain lazy to do the proper research or they have an agenda or just stupid and wrong.
Now as to your case. It may be hard to swallow but you are not NBC. Adoption does not change nature. It is an act of human volition, sanctioned by positive law.
The concept of Natural Law is foregin to us today, though it was very real to the founders. In breaking from the king as subjects a way to gound the legitimacy of the Revolution was found in Natural Law. Laws by Nature are above man, immutable, provided by the Gods of Nature.
An Aristotelian concept. You cannot change them. Our use of the Laws of Nature came from a very unique “American” experience in our ties and disagreements with life under Britain on a newly settling continent. (well new only if you weren't Native American).
So, while your case has never been address as NO CASE of NBC has been directly addressed (OR HAD TO BE ADDRESSED UNTIL THE USURPER), the theory is clear.
At the moment of birth, if either of your birth parents were not U.S. Citizens, you are NOT NBC even if born in this country.
Is this an injustice? perhaps. Can it be changed? Only if an amendment to the Constitution is duly adopted. Should it be changed? No. It isn't necessary for the good of the Republic. You as well as a few other U.S. citizens cannot run for President. Neither can every foreigner.
That's the real story and those of the tongue of the “devil” may try to convince you otherwise but unless you get Donofrio or Appuzio to say otherwise. That's that.
The Big Boo.
The original records are sealed to protect identities.
You BC probably states your adoptive parents. I would think a Judge could add attach statement declaring whether your Birth Parents are Citizens of the US.
I have one addition to my previous answer:
You are not “proven” NBC, because you do not know the citizenship of your birth parents. It short you don’t know if you are or you are not. Therefore ineligible until determined.
The Big Boo