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Trump fails to produce birth certificate
Politico ^ | 03/28/2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:48:32 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

Donald Trump made headlines earlier today when he provided what he said was a copy of his birth certificate -- but a quick check reveals it's actually not an official document.

The paper that Trump released says "Jamaica Hospital" on top and lists the date and time of what he says was his birth to "Mr. and Mrs. Fred C. Trump." The piece of paper has a seal at the bottom.

But after several New York City-based readers contacted POLITICO's Maggie Haberman, her call to city officials revealed that an actual birth certificate, which is issued by the Department of Health, would have the agency's seal and also a signature of the city registrar - neither of which the Trump document has. Officials said the city Health Department is the "sole issuing authority" of official birth certificates in New York, and that the document would clearly say so, and "city officials said it's not an official document."

It appears instead to be a hospital "certificate of birth," meaning the piece of paper the hospital gave to his family saying he was born. Such a document typically has the signature of the hospital administrator and the attending physician.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: EDINVA

Of course he already has a copy of his long form...but you suggest a very good media moment. Invite some of the top names in the media along with him...stroll over...you know a real perp walk!!!! Imagine the camera shot as Trump turns from the clerk, proudly holding up his long form, woopie and BaBa feeling the seal and touching it...and Trump saying, “There, that took what? 5 minutes?”

fee paid $27
Result: priceless....

The Big Boo


61 posted on 03/28/2011 5:17:33 PM PDT by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: Mr. K
Perhaps this is part of Clinton strategy to clear the deck for Hillary in '12?

Have Trump bring up the birther issue, and Politico attack it. Then O has to produce his, but he can't, and will have to step down. Plugs Biden can be beaten by any Dem with a pulse (and a couple without), but HRC would be the front-runner.

This would be such sweet payback for the Clintons ...

62 posted on 03/28/2011 5:17:47 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: blasater1960

I don’t think they do birth announcements in NYC. It’d a a journal of its own, given how many people are born there every day. Families might pay to have an announcement in a loca/neighborhood focused paper. I just don’t know anyone who’s had a kid born in NYC who’s had an announcement published.


63 posted on 03/28/2011 5:18:06 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Smokeyblue

Maybe he should have a TV appearance where he demonstrates just how simple it is to go get a copy of your actual, long-form birth certificate.


64 posted on 03/28/2011 5:18:39 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Awgie

I’m pretty sure it is. He has to be pleased with the way Politico took the bait.


65 posted on 03/28/2011 5:20:10 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: Smokeyblue

Trump is playing them like a cheap guitar. Sit back folks this is getting good!


66 posted on 03/28/2011 5:20:51 PM PDT by mel (I DONATE to FR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Impy
Did Trump just punk politico? Brilliant if this was an intentional plan.

I believe he did! He's claiming he's been "contemplating" a candidacy. Perhaps he'll say he was trying to hide his Mother's Scottish birth and seeing if the media would mention the disqualifying conditions.

67 posted on 03/28/2011 5:21:27 PM PDT by martian622 (The Revolution is being televised.)
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To: Smokeyblue

OK,

So with this document Trump may not be able to play youth hockey in Lakeville....

http://www.lakevillehockey.org/RegInfo10.html

“2. Birth Certificate. A copy of your child’s Government Issued Birth Certificate (not a hospital or baptismal certificate)...”

But the Don is probably not registering to play USA hockey or Little League anytime soon.

Also,

Can we thank Politico for pointing the issue with jus sanguinis? From the article:

“Trump’s mother, it should be noted, was born in Scotland, which is not part of the United States. His plane is registered in the Bahamas, also a foreign country. This fact pattern — along with the wave of new questions surrounding what he claims is a birth certificate — raises serious questions about his eligibility to serve as President of the United States.”

So if Trump is ineligible because of the birth place of his mother....where does that leave Mr. Son of British/Kenyan national?

So Politico says it right there - where you are born is only part of the equation. Who you are born also matters....per...Politico.

Thanks Politico for finally surfacing the issue of jus sanguinis into the mainstream!


68 posted on 03/28/2011 5:21:34 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: majormaturity; jamese777
He uses the same type of document the Big O used

No, he didn't. Unlike Trump, Zero showed a government document. Birthers say it was forged, but, if so, why hasn't Hawaii called him on it? Instead, as James points out, they've basically confirmed its validity.

Either Trump's a total loon, or he's playing some sort of rope-a-dope. We'll have to wait for the other shoe to drop.

69 posted on 03/28/2011 5:21:34 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: AlexW

I need to go dig it up. It has much more information than the COLB Mom gave me with the seal. The State Department did not accept the COLB for a passport.


70 posted on 03/28/2011 5:22:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Elsiejay

Not exactly true. I needed a replacement birth certificate to replace a destroyed original. The document provided me by the County Clerk, is a COLB. It is the ONLY replacement birth certificate available to me from the the official recorder of live births in the county of my birth. Whether they still have the original with the footprint stored in a file somewhere is unknown to me, but the COLB is what I received and have used since then.


71 posted on 03/28/2011 5:22:36 PM PDT by in the wind
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To: tacticalogic

I suggested the same thing...it would be gold...and after he shows how easy it was he could say to the assembled media...hey lets go get a passport now...and then go to Pakistan!!!!!

The Big Boo


72 posted on 03/28/2011 5:23:14 PM PDT by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: jamese777

quit deceiveing you POS you boy Obama is going down


73 posted on 03/28/2011 5:24:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: ml/nj
Trump's mother, it should be noted, was born in Scotland,

If she was a naturalized citizen, and married to a Natural Born Citizen and Donald was born in NY State, he's qualified as a Natural Born Citizen as best I can tell.

74 posted on 03/28/2011 5:24:23 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Smokeyblue

They just got had. LOL


75 posted on 03/28/2011 5:24:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>>I want to know when that hairpiece was born. And to what. Fox? Badger? Wombat?<<<

The really sad thing is that is his real hair. He has allowed several people to verify that fact on TV. I don’t even get the comb over thing, because he has a full head of hair.


76 posted on 03/28/2011 5:24:55 PM PDT by kara37
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To: Smokeyblue

Obviously Trump outfoxed Politico, now lets see them demand O produce his real birth certificate. This is getting funny!


77 posted on 03/28/2011 5:26:01 PM PDT by trustandobey (GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN!)
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To: eyedigress

Huh, My US Passport was issued to me based on my COLB, which is from the county clerks office where I was born.


78 posted on 03/28/2011 5:27:55 PM PDT by in the wind
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To: cynwoody
No, he didn't. Unlike Trump, Zero showed a government document.

Unlike Zero, Trump's at least shows the physician's name.
79 posted on 03/28/2011 5:28:44 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Smokeyblue

OrTrump could produce a cab driver who claims to have known Donalds parents and that is proof he was born in New York!


80 posted on 03/28/2011 5:30:07 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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