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Was the First Rock 'n' Roll Song Recorded in 1946?
Self | March 27, 2011 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 03/27/2011 5:41:19 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

Perhaps the official start of the Rock 'n' Roll era should be moved back from 1954's release of Bill Haley's "Rock Around the Clock" to 1946 to this Tex Beneke (formerly with the Glenn Miller Band) song, HEY-BA-BA-RE-BOP.

Call me crazy but this sure sounds like Rock 'n' Roll except it was a full 8 years before what is generally acknowledged as the beginning of the Rock era.

HEY-BA-BA-RE-BOP


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To: PJ-Comix
So what happened to Rock? Popular music pretty much took a nosedive in recent years.

"Rock 'N Roll's been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died."

81 posted on 03/27/2011 9:47:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: All
Keith Richards~ Something Else
82 posted on 03/27/2011 9:49:38 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: PJ-Comix
Popular music pretty much took a nosedive in recent years.

In recent years? How old are you, sir? Pop music pretty much died out in the mid-1970s in terms of quality. As I was driving along the other day I decided to listen in to several "popular music" radio stations. To a song it was awful. A collection of exceeding dull and pedestrian lyrics backed up by a collection of overly-loud guitars and what appeared to be a computer-generated set of drums. But more importantly there was no discernible melody. Were all the tunes taken by, say 1975? It would appear so.

The sad part is today's young people think they are listening to real rock 'n roll. Apparently they have never heard the real thing or else they wouldn't support this hot and cold running crap.

83 posted on 03/27/2011 10:13:35 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

I should have put in my “commentary” the fact that I have been listening on and off (mainly off) to pop music since the onset of the “melody-less” stuff of the latter 1970s and all of the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, and I haven’t detected anything of quality during that period. So, my little listen-in the other day confirmed that things haven’t changed.

Of course, others’ mileage will vary. I know some Freepers think the “rock ‘n roll” of these periods are the cat’s meow. So be it. Different experiences, different opinions.


84 posted on 03/27/2011 10:32:19 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: libertybell

What about Bohemian Rhapsody? Kashmir?


85 posted on 03/27/2011 10:35:07 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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To: Jim Noble

March, 1951: Rocket 88.

This!


86 posted on 03/27/2011 10:36:23 AM PDT by chasio649 (Paybacks are a Behar)
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To: PJ-Comix

Rock and Roll goes back to indeterminable roots.

Early Delta Bluesmen learned their lick somewhere....??..no guitars in Africa...a diddly bow ain’t the same

Old Appalachin-Bluegrass-Hilbilly is another component...who knows where it came from?

Old Gospel..both Black and White..again who knows?

Even English folk music found as a root of much British rock again...extremely old.

Earliest Rock and Roll sounding stuff?

hmm...not googling...maybe Son House famous railroad track recording in Itta Beena Mississippi...or some Charley Patton or Memphis Minnie

or Hank Williams earliest stuff or some cowboy who kicked it up somewhere or even earlier Jimmy Rodgers or the Carters

there is a reason Haley gets credit for first big record...cause it was really the first termed as such


87 posted on 03/27/2011 10:41:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (FUHB)
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To: Thermalseeker; Mr. Mojo
Rock and Roll came from more than just the blues.

The great Mannish Boy notwithstanding, the notion rock and roll is just a rip off of black music is a notion of the times not founded in reality

and hence?

would it be fair to say then that Delta Blues which I love..I have a signed Alan Lomax print of Son House on my mantle...was a rip off by black plantation workers in Mississippi who at some point probably picked up a guitar from a white guy or worked on some old white written spirituals or work songs

it's a tar pit ..Rock and Roll came from a lot of sources and yes Blues based rock..now mostly dead...did come largely from Blues

I love old Blues...my favorite genre probably

But Country-Hillbilly-Western Cowboy-Southern Gospel all had as a big an influence on rock and roll as well.

88 posted on 03/27/2011 10:47:36 AM PDT by wardaddy (FUHB)
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To: Tread EZ

And let us not forget the back beat.


89 posted on 03/27/2011 10:50:53 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: PJ-Comix

Sorry, but no sale.

The song is nice, and it does have a rock feel to it, but it sounds more like a scat/swing hybrid than the blues-based rock and roll Bill Haley put out. You could probably find a lot of similar songs throughout the ‘30s and ‘40s. Heck, somebody could probably argue for some song or another from the 19th century if they wanted to. (Wikipedia actually has a very fair entry for “Rock and Roll”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll )

Due mainly to some happy coincidences, ‘Rock Around the Clock’ popularized the genre for the world, and Bill Haley was the original “rock guitarist”, for better or worse. His shows got the teenagers rockin’ and rollin’. Some things are best left alone.


90 posted on 03/27/2011 10:56:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PJ-Comix

nah....that was more big band sounds. Good but...not Rock and Roll. Bill Haley was it with Rock Around the Clock hands down in my opinion.


91 posted on 03/27/2011 11:08:17 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: pookie18

Of interest to you.


92 posted on 03/27/2011 11:09:57 AM PDT by TheOldLady (The Long Knives of Sallegroldladeo stand guard beyond "The Line." Don't cross it.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Thanks very much for finding that article on European "swing" - I found it fascinating for so many reasons - as a reference for the cultural state of pre-War Europe, as documentation for the political divisions presaging the darkness about to descend on the Continent, and as a reflection of the American mind regarding both.

When my father introduced me to Big Band music and swing in the early 1970s, I was a teenager raised on the rhythms of rock, a devotee of the AM Band, the transistor-under-the-pillow league.

In all truth, I don't know whether he or I was more surprised by my immediate and visceral affinity for Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, and Artie Shaw, whose records he sat me down for and had me listen to while he talked for hours about his exploits as a youth of my age. It remains one of my most treasured memories of him.

93 posted on 03/27/2011 12:01:52 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Louis Jordon’s post war and early 50’s stuff can truly be considered proto rock and roll. It was different than swing and big band and even be-bop. Louis Jordon truly belongs in the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame


94 posted on 03/27/2011 12:17:19 PM PDT by abigkahuna (screw em all)
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To: TheOldLady
Thanks, TOL...was looking through it yesterday. Have a book entitled something like, What was the 1st Rock 'N Roll Record. I believe that there was no consensus choice...


95 posted on 03/27/2011 12:24:03 PM PDT by pookie18 (Palin/West '12)
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To: pookie18
Yes, I thought it was interesting that no one can really nail down what Rock and Roll really is, and that there are so many differing opinions about whether a song is It or not.

I should have known that you'd be all over it even without a ping.

96 posted on 03/27/2011 12:30:14 PM PDT by TheOldLady (The Long Knives of Sallegroldladeo stand guard beyond "The Line." Don't cross it.)
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To: PJ-Comix
An old argument. Various rock critics and researchers agreed 50 years ago that Rocket 88 was the 1st R'n'R record, no arguments accepted. But there is plenty of other candidates, and a couple decades ago a book came out by Jim Dawson titled "What Was the First Rock'n'Roll Record", which considered a few dozen of them. Now I see an exhaustive Wiki page as well. Rock and roll developed, not just fell from the sky, and Bill Haley first, then Elvis pushed it forward up front moving it out of the "race music" category.
97 posted on 03/27/2011 12:35:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TheOldLady

I didn’t get involved...the usual lack-of-time thing...


98 posted on 03/27/2011 12:38:24 PM PDT by pookie18 (Palin/West '12)
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To: PJ-Comix
Call me crazy but this sure sounds like Rock 'n' Roll except it was a full 8 years before what is generally acknowledged as the beginning of the Rock era.

Heads must roll!

Call for congressional hearings!

Then, impeach Casey Kasem!

Listen to the record: like Lionel Hampton's the year before it's big band jazz.

Too much brass to be R 'n R.

99 posted on 03/27/2011 12:49:13 PM PDT by x
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To: Fresh Wind
Milton Brown And His Musical Brownies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NhWKDNMgM From the comments; I was just wondering, it sounds like he says, "Play it Mr. Dunn." on that first solo. Was that the steel guitar? griffis180 2 years ago 2 Yes. That's Bob Dunn the superb steel guitar player. After Milton Brown died Dunn went on to join Cliff Bruner and his Texas Wanderers. He made some recordings with his own band - Bob Dunn's Vagabonds (basically The Texas Wanderers). He's said to be the the first person to record with an electrically amplified instrument. I beleive Bob Dunn was the very first 'recorded' electric guitarist. i have read that he adapted his Martin with a hawaian guitar pickup system and amplified it! [And that ' yowellza' isn't Axel Rose]
100 posted on 03/27/2011 1:17:23 PM PDT by Son House (Finally, People Lie, Because They Feel If They Tell The Truth, They Won't Get What They Want.)
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