How about it? Anybody get Raptured?

various | 3/22/2011 | me

[bkepley]

Looks like everyone's here. Wife, cat, dog, me.

[Quix]

[Quix]

Every such Scripture will be fulfilled to the letter.

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Have often wondered if there will be more than one Rapture, harvest, catching away.

[Quix]

INDEED.

[Quix]

[Quix]

The Great Catching Away has been around as long as Scripture.

[Yudan]

You are certainly free to believe what you wish about how to interpret individual verses in a vacuum, friend.

Belief in a rapture as you may envision one, or as Tim LaHaye has indicated he envisions one, or as Darby envisioned one, or as any dispensationalist innovation envisions one, is certainly not a necessary condition for salvation. And as most dispensationalists envision one, it logically presupposes a third coming (at worst) and a two-stage second coming (at best). THIS contradicts the words of Jesus in the timeline of events He set forth.

Belief in the resurrection is, on the other hand, necessary. There are no linguistic gymnastics required for that.

I'm Orthodox, friend. I speak English and I call Him Jesus, or Lord.

As far as transliteration goes, I'd be much more concerned with what the scriptures say in Greek than Latin. “Being caught up," or some derivative of the word - arpagisometha (ἁρπαγησόμεθα) in Greek - is used 13 times in the New Testament. And not until Darby and the Plymouth Bretheren was the vision put forth as accepted by so many now. As a matter of fact, the 3rd Ecumenical Council (Ephesus, 431) denounced millennialism as a "deviation and a fable."

So that's where I'm coming from.

[Quix]

INDEED. We’ve proven it false repeatedly.

Some folks evidently have no interest in posting Truth.

[Quix]

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REPLACEMENTARIAN et al
ABSURDITIES ABOUND AGAIN!

[Fresh Wind]

There’s that old drinking song...

“In Heaven there is no beer
That’s why we drink it here
And when we’re gone from here
Our friends will be drinking all the beer”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntkC-o52weI

[HereInTheHeartland]

The pets CAN be ok if you act now:

http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/

http://www.aftertherapturepetcare.com/

[Politicalmom]

I’m positive there’s no beer in Hell....unless the demons play “Keep away” with beer steins.

[Yudan]

“I’m not trying to be a controversialist...”

Nor was I, friend. I was merely giving my point of view. Is that controversial? With all due respect, I believe I was more polite than many of the irreverent comments about wives and pets.

“John Nelson Darby was a thorough and exhaustive and careful scholar of the Bible.”

+John Chrysostom was moreso. If you enjoy scriptural commentary, you should avail yourself of his treatises on the Gospels.

“It’s less than helpful to call Christians, who also are careful and systematic in their Bible study, ‘snake handlers’ and ‘cool aid drinkers’.”

I never called anyone anything, and I am a Christian myself. I indicated that following individual men on their individual interpretations of individual passages of scripture has shown time and again to be a recipe for personal and salvational disaster.

[Quix]

I don’t believe anyone

has The Rapture

or

The 2nd Coming all figured out.

God designed it that way.

I do believe the children are quite accurate in this narrative:

CHILDREN WARNING JESUS COMING POST #804:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2687394/posts?page=804#804

And EVERY convincing Biblical Heavenly Visitation the last year or 3 has had an urgency expressed about CHRIST’S RETURN which is unprecedented in the history of such.

I don’t think God is just playing idle silly tweaky games with such warnings.

[Quix]

!WRONG!

[Quix]

Well put.

Thx.

[swampfox101]

Scriptures please.

[Quix]

New International Version (©1984) while we wait for the blessed hope--the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, New Living Translation (©2007) while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed. English Standard Version (©2001) waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, New American Standard Bible (©1995) looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, International Standard Version (©2008) as we wait for the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus the Messiah. GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) At the same time we can expect what we hope for-the appearance of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. King James Bible Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; American King James Version Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; American Standard Version looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Bible in Basic English Looking for the glad hope, the revelation of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; Douay-Rheims Bible Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ, Darby Bible Translation awaiting the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; English Revised Version looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; Webster's Bible Translation Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God, and our Savior Jesus Christ; Weymouth New Testament in expectation of the fulfilment of our blessed hope--the Appearing in glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; World English Bible looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ; Young's Literal Translation waiting for the blessed hope and manifestation of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ

[Quix]

EXCELLENT, WELL PUT POINTS.

THX.

[Quix]

[swampfox101]

I don’t see rapture mentioned in any of those translations.