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To: ml/nj

Not a dumb question, in spite of the snarky responses. The surface response is that Quadaffi is a two bit tyrant who has richly earned whatever happens to him. However, the same could be said for almost every Arab ruler who has existed.

What most here don’t want to dig into is the fact that Lincoln’s motives were not as pure as the driven snow. He cared nothing for freeing slaves. I suspect that northern interests were interested in holding the south as a sort of colony which could provide cheap labor and resources for their industrial system as well as a market for its products. The government likely saw secession as a loss of an enormous tax base.

I don’t know that the civil war accomplished anything that wasn’t going to happen soon enough. Slavery would have ended due to a combination of humanitarian and economic factors. Costs to the southern aristocracy would have been lower if they had freed the slaves and then used them as temporary workers who could be fired when the job was done rather than keeping them year round. That’s what happened after the war anyway, but the northerners got the advantages of cheap labor. As always with war, a bunch of northern businessmen made a bunch of money while a bunch of people died.

I’n not anti-war, sometimes it beats the alternative. Often there are better ways. I like assasination of opposing leaders as an alternative. If they get a few of ours in return, we have plenty where those came from.


37 posted on 03/20/2011 7:46:34 AM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: tickmeister
You nailed it! From your post (emphasis mine):

What most here don’t want to dig into is the fact that Lincoln’s motives were not as pure as the driven snow. He cared nothing for freeing slaves. I suspect that northern interests were interested in holding the south as a sort of colony which could provide cheap labor and resources for their industrial system as well as a market for its products. The government likely saw secession as a loss of an enormous tax base.

...but the northerners got the advantages of cheap labor. As always with war, a bunch of northern businessmen made a bunch of money while a bunch of people died.

The only part of your statement I disagree with is that I think Lincoln was interested in freeing the slaves.....and deporting them.

64 posted on 03/20/2011 9:03:57 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: tickmeister
Ironic, isn't it, that a black Muslim from Africa now enslaves multiple generations of Americans in the US with the chains of taxation and the whip of government.
104 posted on 03/20/2011 11:37:42 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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