Well some of the answers you were looking for are already answered before I could respond but I’ll add a little anyway.
The People’s Populist party origniated with the ‘Farmers Alliance’ (a Confederate democrat movement) and swept largely through the Confederate South and was not conservative at all. They held many views that democrats still hold today.
Just as the Confederate democrats needed enemies based upon class warfare to define their political ideology so did the People’s party and do the Progressives. The system is always unfair to all three groups of malcontents.
It was in large part the popularity of the People’s party and populism that helped get Wilson elected. They then of course combined with the democrat progressive movement.
To try and hang your hat on the fact that these movements had influence over both parties when beginning is very weak because it is well known which party championed the progressive movement and the socialist mindset of todays democrat party. That was my claim and it is correct. It was the democrats and Woodrow Wilson which was the face of this movement. The first Southern democrat President since the Civil War.
Woodrow (Tommy) Wilson’s father (Joseph) served in the Confederate Army. Woodrow’s allegiance to the Confederacy was also what fixed his allegiance to the democrat party. (pg 24) Wilson while schooling in Virginia wrote an essay titled ‘Stray thoughts from the South’ whereas he condemned Reconstruction (just as all Lost Causers do) and lamented the South not fulfilling its natural destiny. (pg 37) When beginning his law practice in Atlanta, at a time when Atlanta was unofficially considered the capital of the ‘New South’ Wilson is quoted as identifying himself as a member of “that younger generation of Southern men who are just now coming to years of influence … [who are] full of the progressive spirit. (pg 38)
There are many articles that can be found that talk about Wilson’s southern Confederate democrat appointments. Here is one that even mentions how thrilled the South Confederate demcorats were. They celebrated and even played Dixie. And as is mentioned above he won all of the Confederate states.
http://reason.com/archives/2002/12/18/dixiecrats-triumphant
Wilson even with his northern stay used to speak at the Southern Society of New York (expatriates of the South where Wilson often spoke)and had his alliegances to the Confederate South.
Here is a Quotation from Woodrow Wilson’s History of the American People as reproduced in the film The Birth of a Nation.
“The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation ... until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country.”
Notice it does not say the North but the South. “The Southern Country” even. Woodrow Wilson showed this film in the White House.
To try and claim that it was the Republican pary of the time that ushered in the Progressive movement is either pure ignorance or pure propaganda.
Wilson was a Confederate at heart. He was also of the same party. He was also supported by the Confederate democrats. And the Confederates were always malcontents just as the democrat progresives are today and history shows that. He also was the grandfather of the Progressive movement as we know it.
And I know I need to learn to format better. I had a picture to post even but it was playing games with the format of my post. My spelling and typing could use some work as well. Sorry to all. Hopefully I get the time to read through the ‘html’ threads and tidy up my future posts abit.
“‘Farmers Alliance’ (a Confederate democrat movement)”
You have zero evidence that the Farmer’s Alliance, founded had any connection to the Confederacy. Because there is no such evidence. It was an agrarian movement like the Grange, which formed in the same era, as did the Colored Farmer’s Alliance.
You just keep parroting your theory that anything organized in the south after the Civil War was “Confederate Democrat”, a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc stupidity.
“because it is well known which party championed the progressive movement and the socialist mindset of todays democrat party. That was my claim and it is correct. It was the democrats and Woodrow Wilson which was the face of this movement. “
Apparently it isn’t well known by you, which is why you keep repeating the same misinformation. Of course you do have an agenda, and facts inconvenient to your story have a way of getting ignored.
The Progressive Party ran a candidate in 1912, the same year that Woodrow Wilson first ran for President. The face of the movement was its Presidential candidate, Teddy Roosevelt, the former Republican President.
” It was the democrats and Woodrow Wilson which was the face of this movement. The first Southern democrat President since the Civil War.”
I like the how you have modified your story now so that Wilson is the “first ‘Southern Democrat’ President since the Civil War”. I guess it didn’t work out so well when you had him being the “first ‘Democrat’ President since the Civil War”. That’s a good start for you; eventually you may just modify your entire story to fit the evidence, after the facts have bludgeoned you sufficiently.
“Woodrow (Tommy) Wilson’s father (Joseph) served in the Confederate Army. Woodrow’s allegiance to the Confederacy was also what fixed his allegiance to the democrat party.”
Whereas Teddy Roosevelt’s mother, Mitty Bulloch, was raised in Roswell Georgia, and both of Teddy’s maternal uncles fought in the Confederate Army.
Funny how family influence is determinate in the one case but not in other, isn’t it? It’s just more of your special pleading and sloppy logic. And you somehow omit Woodrow Wilson’s career as the President of Princeton University and Governor of New Jersey. Because that information doesn’t fit the tale you want to tell.
“There are many articles that can be found that talk about Wilson’s southern Confederate democrat appointments”
And yet despite those many articles, you haven’t managed to name even one. Whereas I found names for five of Wilson’s Cabinet appointees. And it turns out that not even one was from the South. Why do you suppose you can’t turn up the names of those ‘southern Confederate Democrat’ appointments? Maybe they were too old to have names? The Civil War had ended 47 years before Wilson took office.
“To try and claim that it was the Republican pary of the time that ushered in the Progressive movement is either pure ignorance or pure propaganda.”
Teddy Roosevelt. Thomas Kearns. Hiram Johnson. Robert La Follete. Republicans all, a President, a California Governor, and two US Senators. How’s that pure ignorance working out for you, BigOaf?