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1 posted on 03/15/2011 3:58:25 PM PDT by MNDude
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A reading of Matthew 25 might be instructive.

Also, think of it in this way. What better way to show God's love and mercy than to extend help to those in need, as these people in Japan assuredly are?

Whether or not helping benefits their immortal souls, it is certainly not detrimental to one's own.

27 posted on 03/15/2011 4:17:15 PM PDT by susannah59
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I think that many people don’t know how to pray in these situations.


29 posted on 03/15/2011 4:18:00 PM PDT by Flying right
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Sometimes people don’t always express verbally what they feel. The person leading the prayer may have had very much the compassion you were looking for and thought the phrase “their land will be healed” an example of that.


30 posted on 03/15/2011 4:19:03 PM PDT by mnehring
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Hell’s worse


31 posted on 03/15/2011 4:25:23 PM PDT by gusopol3
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I think asking for them to realize real comfort and compassion through Christ Jesus is great.
I am positive the rest willand has already come normally from the congregation. Love, Prayers, donations, offerings.
Nothing wrong with it at all, it sounds like something I would say. Not cold or unfeeling at all.


34 posted on 03/15/2011 4:26:30 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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The body of Christ has different parts for different purposes. Some have more empathy than others, but each has his role.


36 posted on 03/15/2011 4:27:14 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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I don’t have a problem with that prayer. There are a lot of ways to look at it. I think we go out of our way to say the obvious sometimes. Of course we all want the suffering to end. By “experience”, perhaps he meant the tragedy as well as the recovery.

The best possible thing that can happen for those suffering in Japan is that they find Christ.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 4:32:32 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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Prayer will help their spiritual well-being but if you want to help their physical well-being then you have to give $$$


40 posted on 03/15/2011 4:37:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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"13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people,

"14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
II Chronicles 7:14

Though this has specific application to the Nation of Israel at the time that Solomon is dedicating the temple, there is also application to those who are called His people.

Note that the Lord is sending the devastation on the entire land, but God's call is to bring His people to repentence.

So much to the consternation of some responders on this
thread, there is Scriptural support for your pastor.
41 posted on 03/15/2011 4:44:40 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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I’d ask your pastor directly what the heck he meant. If he meant Japan ‘ got what they deserved ‘ because they are not a Christian country. I’d not return to the church.

If he meant the quake happened by the hand of God to move the people of Japan closer to Christ? Again, I’d leave.

I hope your pastor was simply clumsy in his sermon. Otherwise that is just one wicked statement.


47 posted on 03/15/2011 5:02:21 PM PDT by warsaw44
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It would depend with me upon the tone, I don’t fine the prayer at all offensive.

I’d rather people pray for my salvation than anything else.

That doesn’t mean I don’t want anything else prayed for; but salvation is always the priority.

It’s the only thing you can take with you.

“Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness. And all these things shall be added unto you.” - Jesus.

It was a biblical prayer.


50 posted on 03/15/2011 5:17:06 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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So far, I think #10 & 16 have expressed my sentiments as well....

....I perfectly understand the prayer given....

...it's not cruel to desire a people to turn their hearts to God....it's an absolute response to love for those people

...in the midst of crisis, this is exactly what happens many times.

The first Sunday after 9/11, the church I attended in Santa Monica (in the heart of Hollywoodland) was bursting at the seams with people who flocked there for comfort & answers.....many, I'm sure, unchurched....

Our deepest soul yearns for God.....and truly, there is only one God.

Our church has missionaries in Japan.....they've been there many years, not laboring in vain....but seeing little results due to new Christians in their congregations are excommunicated by their families.

THIS is what I believe the person was trying to communicate during his prayer.

He was praying for God to hear the prayers, have mercy and heal the land.

53 posted on 03/15/2011 5:22:28 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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It depends on what you are focused on the earthly or the heavenly-Do you think that it took God by surprise the destruction and loss of life-All for a purpose-we see sorrow and heartache-God uses tragedy to save many times in the Bible. How can the clay say to the Potter why have you made it this way? My prayers go out to the People of Japan but God is in control. The Focus should be when my time comes do I know where I spend Eternity-it’s not cold to want others to come to Christ through tragedy
71 posted on 03/15/2011 8:23:24 PM PDT by smoeglman
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It’s a long road from the heart to the tongue.


72 posted on 03/15/2011 8:59:16 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (The great American prostate exam continues.)
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some people see “finding christ” as a cure all.

But usually good people mean they hope that the people will learn and turn to Christ in their problems.

One Christian writer in Japan said that Japanese folks aren’t attracted by a Christ who saves them from sin, because they have a different concept of sin. But they would find him as the compassionate God who comes and suffers with them in their time of trouble.


73 posted on 03/16/2011 4:27:21 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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