[Rocky]

So, the universe never began, but it is dying? I haven’t watched the videos yet, but maybe you could give me a brief synopsis of their view of whether the universe is dying (going toward a uniform very cold temperature). Or is it recreating itself in places? Is there a reverse entropy engine somewhere?

[wendy1946]

The universe is not dying or flying apart. Again what the evidence suggests is that the universe at large, like God, is eternal, and that the creation stories we read in antique literature refer to the creation of our own living world and local environment, and not to the creation of the entire universe.

Big bang does not pass any sort of a sniff test for basic logic. Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the ultimate black hole; nothing would ever "bang" its way out of that. Likewise it is nonsensical to think that a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient God would suddenly figure out that it would be a cool thing to do to create a universe while the idea had never occurred to him previously; whether that supposedly happened 6000 or 17B years ago doesn't even matter, it's nonsensical either way.

In other words, big bang is bad physics, bad logic, and bad theology rolled up into a package.