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To: Raider Sam
Its really a shame how insecurity can lead people to using someone’s death to further their own beliefs. This story has nothing to do with religion.

Well, by all means, Sam, please lecture us all from your pulpit on precisely where religion begins and where it ends.

Are their "prescribed" "religious" times?
Is it Sunday, or will you cater to 7th -Day Adventists & Jews & say it's Saturday. Or both?
And what about the true earlier Sabbath...which wasn't just Saturday but sundown Friday til sundown Saturday. Is that "religious" time -- but the rest of the week is "secular?"

Are "religious" people only "religious" when they DO religious things?
Are Christians only occasionally "Christians?"
Is there such a reality in God's eyes as part-time "Christians" or part-time "Mormons?" Really?
Where's your chapter&verse on that one, Raider Sam?
Does that come from the first book of Raider Samuel, 3:16?

Is a Satanist who murders for religious reasons acting religiously? Or no?
Are you able to sort that all out for people?
On all future Satanist-based murders, you'll be able to crystal ball it for us & say, "You know on that given hour, the Satanist was acting pretty secularly, and, hey, he committed murder. But you know, it had NOTHING to do with his religion."???

What about Mormons who killed in the 19th century -- for example the 1850s -- who used the Mormon doctrine of "blood atonement" as the motivation?
Do you know exactly what Gribble's motive was? (Since you seem to know all things pertaining to this case, please share)

Some people claim the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857 had NOTHING to do with the Mormon religion. So should all references to "Mormon" regarding on that matter be stricken from the record?
Are you going to take your white-out and wipe out all references to "Mormon" from all history books about that massacre because of your obsessive need to protect Mormons?
If not, why not?

Are you going to go on your castigating crusade and question all historians who have mentioned "Mormons" in conjunction with the Mountain Meadows Massacre? Yes? No? You refuse to answer these questions on the ground that it might incriminate your two-faced approach to things?

If not, why not?
Where's your crusade consistency?

If you're going all out to de-link Mormons from any same-sentence tie-in to murders, then have at it! Get busy! There are a LOT of articles, books, online content that mentions a LOT of Mormon-based crime! Since you are so 100% sure-- like omni-science sure -- that ALL of that crime has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Mormon faith, and if you are so SECURE in that position, by all means...please explain how much other work you've done to erase all that supposed "nonsense" by writers & historians & journalists who have the audacity to go against Raider Sam's all-knowing will that Mormonism should be censored out of all that content!

And if you haven't, please explain why I am your lone target re: your de-linking campaign?

Also, please explain why you are more provoked by my actions than by a Gribble character stabbing/slashing two victims up to 50 times? Why have you initiated so many posts about my behavior -- but you don't seem to be too provoked over Gribble's?

25 posted on 03/01/2011 11:46:12 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

As for what makes it a religious thread, I think a simple question should be asked:

Was his action done in the name of, inspired by, or done in conjunction his religion?

As for the victims, the only person on this thread using their death for personal gain is you. Where have you shown compassion for the victims? Should every murder be put in the religion forum because the murderer at sometime was religious?


32 posted on 03/01/2011 4:38:08 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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