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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Big government is the Whore of Babylon that social conservatives ignore at their peril. It is evil, pure and simple. Unless we cut the size of government, there will be no more social conservatism. Conversely, if government is small, it won’t be pushing things like gay marriage and abortion on demand. It won’t be able to. The bottom line is that way too many social “conservatives” are Huckabee type Christian Socialists who want a big government as long as it does their bidding on social issues...”


I am for leveling the Federal government in a process of constitutional restoration. All at once and completely in an unread peice of emergency leglislation. ;)

Libertarians are not so innocent. They support liberalism’s humanist or atheist State religion but scream like stuck pigs if they hear a Christian assert moral behaviors and choices in life.

You can not have constitutional freedom with a culture of Marxism as is the ideal of Rand. The former is capable of self rule and independence from the government; the later guarentees a police state made for undiscerning, amoral, immediate gratification peasants who are a danger to themselves and the society as a whole. An amoral, material culture promises more dishonest bankster type abuse.

Libertarians aren’t so innocent.


14 posted on 02/21/2011 6:41:27 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

With all kinds of assent for what Joe 6-pack wrote, I posit the thought that where Huckabee and Company go wrong is in making moral matters a Federal matter ALWAYS. Somewhere in the debate the division of powers between the federal, state and local governments has been forgotten in the libertarian-conservative debate.

I believe, for example, that life issues are federal because of the guarantee of LIFE, liberty and property of the Declaration of Independence, BUT that marriage is under the jurisdiction of the states where marriage can and must be held to a contract between a man and a woman. Some might accuse me of a lack of consistency but then the functioning of a republic, including the terms of debate, need not embrace any more than the intent of the founders and is by definition, designed for debate and a certain messiness, something “moderns” have a hard time abiding, their being wedded to a phony ideal of perfect consistency.

When states are restored as per the 10th Amendment then the conservative mission can be given full run.

And Joe 6-pack, again, loved your comments. Angry jumps to conclusions and related polemics without arguments are pointless.


15 posted on 02/21/2011 6:55:04 AM PST by CatholicEagle (There are more airplanes on the bottom of the ocean than submarines in the sky.)
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To: SaraJohnson
I am for leveling the Federal government in a process of constitutional restoration.

You do realize that means the end of the drug war ?

19 posted on 02/21/2011 9:12:24 AM PST by MetaThought
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