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To: truthfreedom

I didn’t start it. Dalight, or dayglow or whatever his/her name is said a) I seldom promote Bachmann. and b) that Palin and Bachmann are near 100% agreement. I’ll give you a tidbit:

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin, if you were vice president today, what would you be telling a President McCain about what to do about immigration, if anything?

PALIN: I support his position on immigration.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590022,00.html

She (Bachmann) criticized an ill-fated White House plan to beef up border security while providing ways for some illegal immigrants to legalize their status. “It smacked of amnesty,” she said. “People in the Sixth District are not in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.”

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/house/12819527.html


102 posted on 02/14/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

Palin should not be held to what she said between July/Aug 2008 and early November 2012.

She isn’t really allowed to disagree with the President as VP. I give her a pass for those months. Those are McCains positions. Anything before or after is more fair game.

We will certainly be arguing about these or similar matters and I have noted your praise of Bachmann, DeMint and Cain.


103 posted on 02/14/2011 2:51:02 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: pissant; Ol' Sparky
Pissant: "PALIN: I support his position on immigration."

Reality: McCain adopted a position of "Secure the Border before doing anything else" for his re-election, and Palin could support that and did.

VAN SUSTEREN: One of the big issues in the campaign was immigration in 2008, and you supported a path to citizenship as part of the immigration. Hispanics were very happy with what you were proposing, but then they went with President Obama. Now the Hispanics are unhappy with President Obama because so far, no immigration reform. What happened to immigration? What are we going to do about it? What do you want to do about it?

MCCAIN: Well, two things I think are important. One is the fact that the environment is so difficult on the border. We just had three American citizens murdered in Juarez. The violence and the struggle against the drug cartels is huge. We need to secure the border. We have to get the border secured.

Second of all, the agreement that we made had a temporary guest worker program, a legal temporary guest worker program. This is not in any proposal that the Democrats want because the unions, obviously, control their agenda. So we got to get the border secured. This is an existential threat to the government of Mexico.

VAN SUSTEREN: So how do you secure the border, Senator, because everyone keeps saying we need to secure the border? Do we build a big wall like they did -- like the -- you know, they did in East Europe? What do we do?

MCCAIN: Well, we need to have surveillance capabilities. An attempt that they were making just collapsed. The contractor failed miserably. But we need to do a lot more surveillance. And we could use a lot more high-tech. But to have the drug cartels' violence spill over into the United States of America is a real possibility.

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin, if you were vice president today, what would you be telling a President McCain about what to do about immigration, if anything?

PALIN: I support his position on immigration. It all comes down to securing the border. And he who has actually proposed some solutions, the Obama administration does not want to listen to Senator McCain or any other Republican, and that, of course, leads to a greater problem that we have in Washington, D.C. And it's that lack of the new administration's ability and enthusiasm for listening to those on the other side of the aisle who have some good solutions that they want considered.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590022,00.html#ixzz1DynJkNTV

Once more, a supposed fact pushed by pissant evaporates when you actually look at it. If you have to edit away the answer to get the quote you want, you are just plain dishonest.

110 posted on 02/14/2011 3:56:20 PM PST by dalight
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