Video: Has Revelation's 'pale rider' shown up in Egypt?

World Net Daily ^ | 5 Feb 2011 | Drew Zhan

[mrs. a]

I dunno, has Harold Camping wieghed in on it?

[jmacusa]

Could be anything. A trick of the light or a reflection. It is strange, I’ll admit that. But clearly no reflection however is who is the genius that gave the Egyptians the M1 Abrams tanks!?! Brilliant , just brilliant! Give a bunch of Bronze Age savages a 5 million dollar near- robotic killing machine that doesn’t miss what it shoots at and is nearly indestructable.

[Munz]

Off the top of my head i believe it is

Rev 8;6

“and behold a pale horse, the name that sat on him was death. and hell followed at his heels”

[Munz]

sorry it was rev 6:8

i said it was off the top of my head .. apologies

[Munz]

ping

[Larry Lucido]

Nope. The Pale Rider was clearly seen at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico in another photo a year or so back.

Only one Pale Rider per apocalypse.

No more Pale Rider for you!

[firebrand]

Don’t be so sure.

[Yet_Again]

I have recently been pondering the “rapture” issue. For many, many years I have believed I would be “saved,” from the tribulation, hell, and death. Rev. 6 discusses the seals and the horsemen.... after that then there is Rev. 7. Now, I’m not so sure the Christians don’t stand in witness of the last days. Rev. 7 in particular discusses an interesting matter of being sealed as a bond servant of God.

One of the (many) reasons why I've been skeptical of the pre-tribulation rapture. Also, many pre-trib authors freely quote scripture out of context in their writings.

"There is no known writing existing, or referred to by other writers, of the pre-trib rapture teaching prior to 1830. None of the early Church fathers or anyone else throughout Church history wrote about the saints being raptured before the end-time Great Tribulation. This does not conclusively mean that the theory is false, only that it is a historical fact that this teaching did not exist among the early Christians or the Church fathers or any Christians throughout history until 1830.

Reportedly the origin of the pre-trib rapture teaching was with a fifteen-year-old girl named Margaret MacDonald in the town of Port Glasgow, Scotland. Supposedly in 1830 she had a dream or vision that Christians were raptured just prior to the Great Tribulation. In 1831 or 1832 a Presbyterian pastor in London, England named Edward Irving heard about this dream or vision that Miss MacDonald had and started teaching it to his congregation. These are well-known reports among scholars of eschatology.

These reports concerning the origin of the pre-trib rapture theory may or may not be true. What is well-documented is the fact that John Nelson Darby, the founder of a group known as the Plymouth Brethren, after visiting Miss MacDonald began teaching this new theory."

Finally, it meshes too nicely with easy believism which is the sort of soft feel good Christianity the large majority of American Christendom is attracted to these days. Of all the great saints of the church - all the apostles included - two people were "raptured": Enoch and Elijah (Jesus doesn't count, he runs the airline). Given this backdrop, I find the pre-tribulation rapture almost implausible and feel that the church will persist in to the tribulation, though greatly diminished and persecuted.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"

So in Paul's writings we see that rather than a rapture or a great revival preceeding the antichrist and tribulation, there is a great apostasy.

Persist to the finish line my brothers and sisters.

[EBH]

How very odd, I have never heard that before. Thank you for sharing. Revelations 7 where the tribes of Israel are sealed and the discussion of those in the white robes...

The phraseology is suspect, but it states:

...“These are they who have come out of the great tribulation;”

That is not a description of a rapture. To “come out of XXXX, means one must have gone through...

To come out of a coma...one must go through the coma.

To come out of a valley...one must go through the valley.

To come out of the car...one must go into the car.

To come out of a war...one must go through the war.

And Revelations 6 states very clearly:
11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.

This does not sound like a rapture to me, instead is sounds like believers will be hunted down and slain. Which eerily corresponds with the Muslim’s description of the last days where even the trees will point out the jew to be slain.

Why will there be a great falling away? Because when these things come to pass, many who have been mislead, will have their faith shaken and be moved.