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I'll make this short and sweet: The great shock and outrage on both sides of the political aisle, is how a country shut down the internet in a few minutes. There are some that say these would be the sure signs of a dictatorship.

Hence the U.S. government solution: create a law that gives a President the authority to shut down the Internet without judicial review.

As a network admin and computer programmer, you would have to get pretty tyrannical here in the U.S. to pull off something like that; since there's no way to get everyone to volunteer.

So, you can beat on your chest, call your congressman, cry foul, say 'see! I told you so', or all of the above. To put it simply, if the U.S. Government attempts to take down the Internet - it's on.

I'll let the reader figure out what 'ON' means.

At which point, we'll need a network up and running fast. My opinion: We are way beyond politics on this one.

Let's get to work, people.

The floor is open.

1 posted on 01/31/2011 7:39:09 AM PST by jimjohn
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To: jimjohn

Easy, replace Democrats with Tea Party.


2 posted on 01/31/2011 7:40:08 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: jimjohn

1. Dig out your old telephone modem and learn how to use it again.

2. Recruit ham radio operators.

3. Buy a satellite phone that has a built-in modem.


3 posted on 01/31/2011 7:43:32 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: jimjohn

In the wake of the AZ shootings and the new tenor of disscussion in D.C., and around the nation, is Kill Switch really an appropriate term? /s


4 posted on 01/31/2011 7:52:05 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: jimjohn

one small idea is to store numeric ip addresses for major websites, in case DNS servers get disabled (either by gov or by accident).


5 posted on 01/31/2011 7:53:29 AM PST by heiss
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To: jimjohn

Become a ham. No code test nowadays. Learn proper transmission practices. Get your friends to do so. Practice. Use FM handhelt tranceivers and private repeaters. Don’t let the Feds give away theham bands. SWL and ham radio are key survival skills.


8 posted on 01/31/2011 8:04:06 AM PST by caddie
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To: jimjohn

An internet kill switch is a really stupid idea, not just from a communications standpoint either. Just imagine the runs on banks for cash because debit cards no longer work. It would be like the trigger of the Great Depression all over again when Hoover slapped a tax on bank drafts.

Actually, I can’t think of a scenario where it would be necessary or even a good idea to cut off mass communications.

Congress needs to step in a explicitly forbid it.


10 posted on 01/31/2011 8:05:02 AM PST by dajeeps
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To: jimjohn

Its unlikely this could ever be implemented in the USA.
Too many companies run their multi-site operations using the internet.

Google, MS, IBM, Intel would all grind to a halt.
One min after implementing it, Obama would hear from 2000 CEO’s.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 8:05:27 AM PST by Zathras
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To: jimjohn

The answer is straightforward:

1. Go local using Ubiquiti Networks gear. www.ubnt.com
2. Deport, shoot or hang all serial violators of their oath of office.

I’d call that a very ggod start.


13 posted on 01/31/2011 8:11:11 AM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: jimjohn

The US has jurisdiction over the DNS root zone. We can really shut down the Internet. Well, not quite shut it down, but 99.9% of people would think it’s down for quite a while.


14 posted on 01/31/2011 8:11:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: jimjohn

Shutting down the Internet on a national basis isn’t that difficult.....

Shutting down Level 3, MCI and AT&T will completely disrupt if not halt almost all internet, kill the primary and secondary DNS servers and all but a few intranets with private international conections will be down.


15 posted on 01/31/2011 8:11:54 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: jimjohn
How do we get around the Internet Kill Switch?

I am thinking out loud ...

A bootable CD based Wireless P-t-P BBS that is Linux based ?

Something that people can simply download as a premade ISO image file without any sort of political message in it, burn it to CD and then boot from the CD and optionally connect to Wireless nodes around them.


18 posted on 01/31/2011 8:15:42 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: jimjohn

If the government shuts down the internet, that is the suspending of the First Amendment.
It should quickly be followed by the exercising of the Second Amendment.


24 posted on 01/31/2011 8:32:08 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: jimjohn

One way is for the wimpy republicans to come out swinging publicly on this while the iron is hot. Compare this to obama’s words to Egypt regarding the internet shut-down over there. Point out the hypocrisy loud and clear. Republicans need to speak out because the MSM isn’t going to do it for them. They are their own worst enemy.


25 posted on 01/31/2011 8:32:15 AM PST by jersey117
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To: jimjohn

It would be possible for small numbers of individuals in a country to stay connected amongst themselves to the international internet via satellite links, but these folks would already have to have their ground equipment installed and functioning, having the service in operation before the local national Internet was taken down, since communications would have been cut off to the extent that they couldn’t set up a new international satellite Internet access account and get it going.

Furthermore, the satellite operator’s ground equipment and international Internet tie-ins would all have to be outside the purview of the U.S., that is, located offshore in a country not willing to cooperate with the U.S. to turn off their own Internet services.

This wouldn’t be a bad thing for a well organized opposition (or pre-opposition) to have in place prior to an uprising (or other event) that might lead the national government to take down the communication infrastructure.

In the olden days it was sufficient for the government or opposition to control the TV and radio stations, but now it would be much more important during an uprising (or other event) to control the Internet, to either be able to turn it off if you were the government, or to keep connected if you were the opposition.

On the other hand, at this time, I don’t think the U.S. government could shutdown the civilian Internet because it is owned and operated by several private companies, and short of sending in the U.S. military to forceably take control, the Feds would have to try and seek court orders should said private companies not wish to cooperate.

Additionally, shutting down the U.S. Internet would bring the entire U.S. to a halt almost as effectively as if all electric power was shut off. Should the U.S. government succeed in shutting down the civilian Internet, the result would fundamentally be apocalyptic, most likely resulting in total chaos, including (but not limited to) large numbers of large armed confrontations amongst various segments of U.S. society as just-in-time commerce grinds to a halt, leaving most people without food, heat, water, medicine, light, fuel, transportation or information.

Quite frankly, I can’t imagine an event bad enough to warrant taking down the U.S. Internet such that the take down itself wouldn’t make the event far, far worse. It therefore makes you wonder what the Obammunists have in mind in even contemplating the power to do such a thing.

I also can’t believe such as action could ever be constitutional under the first amendment, given that in a just a few more years, the Internet will have subsumed the roles of the print press, radio, and television, since all of these are ultimately likely to travel on the Internet. Therefore, shutting down the entire Internet would be tantamount to not just limiting free speech, but stopping ALL speech altogether.


33 posted on 01/31/2011 9:08:17 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: jimjohn; All
interesting replies. working on a part 2 of this post, but here's another question: What could a person(s) do just their existing computer and say... the wireless router in the event there is no internet?

Could there be a way to tie a wireless network (or several networks) to a ham radio net?

just thinking out of the box

41 posted on 01/31/2011 11:30:26 AM PST by jimjohn
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To: All; Jim Robinson
Mr. Jim,

You need to be up to speed on this discussion, since your system is the de facto American patriot Internet presentation layer.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

48 posted on 01/31/2011 2:12:18 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet.)
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To: Lurkus Maximus

PING!!


49 posted on 02/01/2011 4:20:29 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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