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January 26, 2011 | devere

[jamese777]

For anything I typed which was thought of as an accusation, my apology. After reading your post, and please correct me if I am wrong, your opinion is undecided?

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Yes, I freely admit that I have no clue as to where Barack Obama was born and I doubt if he remembers where he was born, I know that I have to rely on the word of others that I was born where I think that I was born!
I have always called for a grand jury investigation of this issue because grand juries have subpoena power. I also think that a congressional investigation, now that the Republicans control the House could result in clearing the issue up once and for all.
Every serious constitutional issue involving the presidency over the last forty years has been resolved by a grand jury: Watergate, Whitewater, Iran-Contra, CIA Leaks, the Savings and Loan scandal, et cetera.
Why no Obama eligibility grand jury?

[Churchillspirit]

Did MadIvan write an opus or did he just leave?

Anyone remember?

[no-to-illegals]

I have my original BC. I try to keep it safe. It has raised seal, dated my day of birth, time, mom and dad named, county, state, and location of birth, etc. Never has been not considered valid. Though I would think the rules vary from state to state.

Why no Obama eligibility grand jury?
Good question. People, in power, are scared? I just threw that out, for I do not know this is a fact. Your question is valid....imho

[GoldwaterChick]

Can’t remember. He started another Conservative website which eventually crashed. Always wondered what happened to him.

[jamese777]

I have my original BC. I try to keep it safe. It has raised seal, dated my day of birth, time, mom and dad named, county, state, and location of birth, etc. Never has been not considered valid. Though I would think the rules vary from state to state.
Why no Obama eligibility grand jury?
Good question. People, in power, are scared? I just threw that out, for I do not know this is a fact. Your question is valid....imho

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I only have a short form. I think my original is at my parents’ house somewhere. I haven’t seen it in decades. My short form, which has even less info than a Hawaii short form has been good enough for all legal purposes: passports, licenses, mortgages, et cetera.

I don’t know what there is to be scared of. An investigation by a grand jury is simply looking into an issue, it is not a trial. Hundreds of people have sued Obama for release of records and they weren’t scared.
Why not one single prosecuting attorney in the entire nation convening a grand jury?

[GoldwaterChick]

I recall reading that Obama traveled to Pakistan when it was on the banned list for Americans. So what passport could he have been using then?

Of course it could be that my memory has failed me and it wasn’t Pakistan after all, but no doubt someone out there will know!

[jamese777]

I suggest you peddle these lies back over to the Daily KOS. IF Barry has a COLB, so what?

It is widely known that Hawaiian officials routinely issued COLB’s to foreign born children.

This is straight from the Hawaii Department Of Health Website. Barry’s sister Maya (born in Indonesia) has a COLB also.

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You have fallen for another internet rumor. You can do your own index data search for a birth record in Hawaii for Maya Soetoro.
However, it’s already been done by others.

“As per Hawai’i Revised Statute 338-18(d), I am herein requesting “index data” available to the public according to the statute, specifically the index data pertaining to a birth record for the person known as President Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro, aka Maya Kassandra Soetoro, aka Maya Soetoro-ng…

From: Okubo, Janice S.
To: [KingsKid email redacted]
Cc: Onaka, Alvin T.
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Request for Information

Aloha…

There is no record that responds to this request.

Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health

[jamese777]

I suggest you peddle these lies back over to the Daily KOS. IF Barry has a COLB, so what?

It is widely known that Hawaiian officials routinely issued COLB’s to foreign born children.

This is straight from the Hawaii Department Of Health Website. Barry’s sister Maya (born in Indonesia) has a COLB also.

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You have fallen for another internet rumor. You can do your own index data search for a birth record in Hawaii for Maya Soetoro.
However, it’s already been done by others.

“As per Hawai’i Revised Statute 338-18(d), I am herein requesting “index data” available to the public according to the statute, specifically the index data pertaining to a birth record for the person known as President Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro, aka Maya Kassandra Soetoro, aka Maya Soetoro-ng…”

From: Okubo, Janice S.
To: [KingsKid email redacted]
Cc: Onaka, Alvin T.
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Request for Information

Aloha…

There is no record that responds to this request.

Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health

[Churchillspirit]

Yes...he was very articulate and knowledgeable about American politics.

[no-to-illegals]

Why not one single prosecuting attorney in the entire nation convening a grand jury?

There are times I wish I had been an attorney. Maybe someone, an attorney, has already. My memory is not great either, yet I seem to recall Alan Keys (is he not an attorney, Alan may not be an attorney) did file a suit and he was ignored. If all one is seeking is an attorney to file a suit, I would have to believe this has been done. Therefore there is no appeals process for a suit, perhaps?

[jamese777]

I recall reading that Obama traveled to Pakistan when it was on the banned list for Americans. So what passport could he have been using then?

Of course it could be that my memory has failed me and it wasn’t Pakistan after all, but no doubt someone out there will know!

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It was Pakistan but there wasn’t a travel ban, only a travel advisory.
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf

[Vendome]

ROTFLMAO!!!

You would have to see my employees looks when I read your response.

I actually laughed out loud.

Too funny.

Post on.

[GoldwaterChick]

It was Pakistan but there wasn’t a travel ban, only a travel advisory.
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/travel/cis/southasia/TA_Pakistan1981.pdf

Thanks for clearing that up. I distinctly remember reading “banned”, so whoever did write that was misinformed.

[cleveland gop]

HA HA!!!!!!

[cleveland gop]

Post 100 1/2....Is that a first on FR?????

[Qbert]

“I never said that the COLB is the final word. What I said is that with over 100 different judges and justices having read legal briefs on this issue, none has been persuaded to let a trial or an appeal of a lower court decision go forward.

It is my personal opinion that judges and justices can’t find a motive for a Republican governor who campaigned for Senator McCain and who delivered one of Sarah Palin’s endorsement speeches to be lying in order to support a left wing Democrat.”

— Do you want the judges to violate Hawaii law?? Have you ever heard of something called “standing”?? Sheesh...

[rxsid]

"As a proud charter member of freeper birthers, I can tell you there are levels of birthers. There’s the strict constitution natural born citizen group, the Stanley Ann had him in Canada, or Washington or possibly Kenya group, the CIA plant group, the Barack Obama Sr. is not his father group, and a newer offshoot of that- that Stanley Ann was not his mother and finally the I don’t care about his bc as much as his college records, passport and draft registration group.

Don't forget the dualers! Those that question how someone born a dual national (by way of a foreign parent) could be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

Unless of course you would consider dualers to be a part of the "strict constitution natural born citizen group" ;)

[rxsid]

"It is my personal opinion that judges and justices can’t find a motive for a Republican governor who campaigned for Senator McCain and who delivered one of Sarah Palin’s endorsement speeches to be lying in order to support a left wing Democrat."

Really?

Not to cover for her state's corruption regarding their citizenship laws?

[Qbert]

“Really?
Not to cover for her state’s corruption regarding their citizenship laws?”

It was that James777 weirdo that said that.

But anyways, as for that pic- LOL

[FourPeas]

Never heard of you, dude. Thanks for letting me know you’re going, otherwise I’d never have missed you.