Posted on 01/17/2011 11:19:49 AM PST by Moleman
I am wondering if anyone has advice. I lost a very well paying job but thank God landed another one right away. The new one pays less (about 30%)but still pays well. Through my lawyer I petitioned for less alimony / support in August 2010. I have heard NOTHING from FOC. I continue to follow up with my lawyer who goes on to say; well they can take 6 months or so to revise the order. Meanwhile I cannot pay my property taxes as FOC sits on all my money. WTF. Any ideas?
As far as the court's concerned, if you're eating more than raman for every meal, driving a car, etc, you've obviously got the money to pay this stuff, and you can just keep on paying until they get around to reviewing it.
file another petition and keep doing it until you get a hearing
those people are good for nothing ass holes
They dont care if they send you to jail for not paying, even if you CANT pay (lost job, or less paying job)
they dont care if your children starve if you go to jail and can pay nothing
I was laid off in 2008 and told my ex about it. She went ballistic of course. Then my Father told her about Social Security Disability income that included a lot of stuff that she wanted.
Imagine my surprise when she emailed me saying 'Don't pay any more Alimony'! I managed to get her to notarize a copy of her Email and get her attorney involved. So as long as I am unemployed - No Alimony!
So the Bottom Line is - If you are UNEMPLOYED AGAIN, seek cessation of Alimony then. Regards, SR
Oh boy is that right. mmmm Ramen noodles.....
Talked to the spouse; she believes FOC are morons too but that I will get something retroactive from them. Therefore, she is not willing to refund me my over payment.
I wonder if going down to the FOC building in person would help.
in nj you don’t need a lawyer you can go to probate court and do it there for the cost of fees, but indeed it is hard to do. my hubby was out of work for a year (no income) and then for the last year has been getting and new business going which is improving but hard. so, for two years he has made less than 20 percent of what his alimony is based on and they will not reduce it...do?lt get your hopes up...the courts like indentured servitude and this “private” form of wealth redistribution
That is evidently the case!!
Searching the net for 'FOC Michigan retroactive refund' turned up several results, none of them indicating that the FOC ever hands out refunds, withholds part of support payments to make a possible future refund, etc. A lot of websites came up that explicitly stated that this is never going to be the case, and that such expectations is ignoring what the FOC is mostly about - a third party transferrer of funds. She's already got your overpayment, she's not willing to give it to you, she's certainly not going to be willing to give it to FOC.
It's possible this is just a misunderstanding on her part and your part on how the FOC system works, and my search could be quite incorrect. It would serve you both to speak to your lawyers, and get this clarified, and if possible, simply work out a deal on the side, or better yet, simply opt out of the FOC system and handle it like adults.
Bear in mind that FOC or CSEU as it’s known in many other states have ZERO incentive to grant downward modifications. They get matching fed funds for every dollar collected. They’d rather see you go to prison, accumulating alimony/CS debt and charge you interest and late fees. It’s NOT about the children and if your ex-wife is anything like my hubby’s ex-shrew, she would be pleased to see you in thumb screws on the rack. She takes half his net income every month. He’s been paying this and more for almost eight years now and has at least 14 more to go.
He makes in the low 30s so the state of NY does not care whether or not you can afford to live on your own after you pay CS/Spousal Support.
His ex shrew (who works for Child Protective btw) pocketed over $4,000 over the years in out of pocket orthodonture (which he was never told about) well after the bill was paid through auto payments to CSEU. The magistrate said “water under the bridge” and “oh well, gift to mom.”
She and her new hubby make three times what we do. Good luck because you’re gonna need it.
Yuck, thats what I was afraid of. NEVER getting a refund.
My lawyer says that they will but now I am concerned.
I would like to opt out but her “friends” have told her not to. ughh
Sorry to hear that, it has to make you sick. Much the way I feel.
Same thing here. We were cutting her a check every week; not good enough for her. She insisted going through CSEU (FOC in Michigan). Her mother, hubby’s ex-MIL, I refer to as “Sasquatch” told her to make sure it goes through CSEU as did her friends.
We get a love letter every year b/c of their bassackward accounting saying we are in arrears; when it’s automatically taken out every week before he gets what’s left of his paycheck.
No one pays alimony now days unless they are rich.
Are you rich?
LOL NO!! It's the difference in wage (she was a stay at home mom). Me low six figures, her about 13k. So she is "entitled" to maintain her living standard. grrrrr. Both child support and alimony need reduced. Here I make what is considered a damn good wage and more after taxes and all the support I get about 1/4 of it. Oh boo whoo. But I know God has a plan and I must put my faith in him.
Sorry Dr. Laura et al, but this is a very GOOD reason NEVER to allow your wife to be ‘stay at home.’
I never had that luxury with my two kids; a lot of modern moms EXPECT it nowadays. Daycare is outrageous but the millions, yes MILLIONS over the years you’ll be paying after the divorce is so much more.
Talked to a twenty something liberal co-worker who is allowing his wife to be SAH with their two children... He ACTUALLY THOUGHT that if they broke up HE’D get the children since he’s the breadwinner!!! I “re-educated” him. You should have seen the LOOK on his face!!
Hubby’s ex-shrew was a stay in bed mom; about three years after the breakup she realized she could no longer live off of him (he was paying her his ENTIRE salary out of self imposed (and wrongly placed) guilt. Then her friend got her a “job” at Child Protective.
The archaic family court laws need to change (fathersandfamilies.org)
that is terrible advice. it does not change the court order and sets him up for back support penalities and contempt.
And debtor’s prison reserved only for men who are unable to pay their matriarchy, eerrrr I mean CHILD support.
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