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Tucson shooter's incredible marksmanship
AboveTopSecret.com ^ | Jan 15, 2011

Posted on 01/16/2011 3:07:32 PM PST by starvosan

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To: starvosan

The mere presence of a UNIFORMED Police officer with a sidearm may have afforded a different outcome to all of this, in my opinion.


21 posted on 01/16/2011 4:32:06 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Agreed. It was probably pretty hard for him not to hit someone.

Additionally, I am not totally convinced that the "victim" who has since been arrested was in fact wounded. He is so far "out there" that I would not be surprised to learn that he managed to self-inflict a minor injury to give himself a platform from which to gain attention for his own views.

I could be wrong about that, of course. It would be interesting to see his wounds or a good medical description of them.

22 posted on 01/16/2011 4:34:59 PM PST by susannah59
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To: starvosan
Which is of course evidence of multiple shooters.

Of course there were. I think there were five more strategically placed around the perimeter of the crowd armed with silencers......invisible ninjas if you will.

23 posted on 01/16/2011 4:37:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only thing Super Glue is good for is gluing your fingers together.....)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Right; it was like shooting fish in a barrel. “Marksmanship” is what sportsmen (like Sarah Palin) do. “Wild Shooting” is what criminals do, and if his aim had been all that good, he would have had 30 kills.


24 posted on 01/16/2011 4:52:56 PM PST by Twinkie (LEFTIST FREE SPEECH GOOD. - CONSERVATIVE FREE SPEECH BAD.)
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To: starvosan

Some of the injuries were from fragments, likely off the concrete. I agree he had to be using FMJ because the head wound on Gifford had a small entrance and exit. Extremely fortunate for Gifford.


25 posted on 01/16/2011 5:11:45 PM PST by iontheball
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To: starvosan
Here we go! Second shooters, grassy knolls, magic bullets. Who knows? I’m confident there's enough crap to shovel here, particularly with a little more help from lefty politicians and media, to lower the unemployment rate for a while and also to divert us all from the serious work to be done.
26 posted on 01/16/2011 5:45:05 PM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: starvosan

If Jared played a lot of video maze games he got the point-and-shoot thing down pat. A few years ago there was a spate of convenience store robberies committed by very young dudes armed with pistols wherein if the clerk moved unexpectedly the kid shot him, usually in the forehead. It turned out these kids had been video gamers who learned instant point and shoot and got good playing these games. The shootings were “accidental” in that the shooters did not intend them but a move by the clerk triggered what was by then almost an instinctive reaction in the robber. For a while the military used those games to train infantry but then developed its own more sophisticated games.
I bet Jared was a video gamer.


27 posted on 01/16/2011 6:01:44 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: starvosan
Ridiculous.

9mm ball ammo and a crowd surrounding those closet to him, preventing their scatter.

All he had to do was shoot into the crowd...couldn't miss.

29 posted on 01/16/2011 7:22:31 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: starvosan
I remember this thread last night and this morning (Monday) I just happen to read this from the NY Slimes you may be interested in.

Jared used to shoot cans in the desert with a buddy.

30 posted on 01/17/2011 8:43:11 AM PST by TOneocon (The reason there is so much poverty is because of the uneven distribution of capitalism...Rush)
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Wow. He plinked at cans and thus was able to score 30 hits with 30 shots. Of course! Why didn’t I think of that? Anyway the victims were not grouped in a tight circle while they waited to get shot:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/15medical.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
The victims dropped where they stood, forming a row 20 or 30 feet long.


31 posted on 01/17/2011 8:00:38 PM PST by starvosan
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More info you don’t want to know about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdBrcSGqw-w&feature=related
witness Andrea Gooden:
(30 sec mark)
Q: “And did you see an immediate emergency response? Did you sense that security detail may have been on... on scene already?”
A: “I did sense that. There was an immediate response within a minute...”

The witness had the feeling the cops were ON SCENE ALREADY. This reeks of a pre-planned covert op.


32 posted on 01/17/2011 8:07:12 PM PST by starvosan
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