Posted on 01/16/2011 3:07:32 PM PST by starvosan
The perp is supposed to have had time to empty* one extended magazine holding 31 rounds. Yet if you count the number of wounds in the victims, you come up with at least 30 wounds.
Dead
-John Roll, 63 (?) -Gabriel Zimmerman, 30 (?) -Dorwin Stoddard, 76, shot in head (1x) -Christina Greene, 9, shot once through chest (1x) -Dorothy Morris, 76 (?) -Phyllis Schneck, 79 (?)
Wounded
--Ron Barber, 65, shot in the leg and in the face and neck area (2x) --Bill Badger, 74, grazing wound in back of head (1x) --Kenneth Dorushka, 63, shot in arm (1x) --Eric (aka James) Fuller, 63, wounded in knee and back (2x) --Randy Gardner, 60, shot in foot (1x) --U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords(D-AZ), 40, shot through head, either from back or front (1x) --Susan Hileman, 58, shots in torso and leg (3x) --George Morris, 76, shot in chest and leg (2x) --Mary Reed, 52, shot in back and once in each arm (3x) --Pam Simon, 63, shot in wrist and chest (2x) --Mavanell Stoddard, 75, shot 3 times in the leg (3x) --James Tucker, 58, shot in the collarbone and the leg (2x) --Kenneth Veeder, 75, grazed in leg (1x)
And that doesn't include rounds that impacted the building:
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2011/01/08/20110108arizona-congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shooting-scene.html Jason Pekau, 31, saw bullet holes in the walls and in the Safeway windows.
Even assuming rounds that passed through one victim and then impacted another, it is a truly incredible piece of marksmanship from some guy who had no known professional training and probably very little practice. Which is of course evidence of multiple shooters.
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*Or maybe he didn't even fire that many:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/01/09/132764807/rep-gabrielle-giffords-d-ariz-others-reported-wounded-in-shooting?ps=rs There were still bullets in the suspect's gun when he was tackeled by two bystanders, Dupnik says.
The mere presence of a UNIFORMED Police officer with a sidearm may have afforded a different outcome to all of this, in my opinion.
Additionally, I am not totally convinced that the "victim" who has since been arrested was in fact wounded. He is so far "out there" that I would not be surprised to learn that he managed to self-inflict a minor injury to give himself a platform from which to gain attention for his own views.
I could be wrong about that, of course. It would be interesting to see his wounds or a good medical description of them.
Of course there were. I think there were five more strategically placed around the perimeter of the crowd armed with silencers......invisible ninjas if you will.
Right; it was like shooting fish in a barrel. “Marksmanship” is what sportsmen (like Sarah Palin) do. “Wild Shooting” is what criminals do, and if his aim had been all that good, he would have had 30 kills.
Some of the injuries were from fragments, likely off the concrete. I agree he had to be using FMJ because the head wound on Gifford had a small entrance and exit. Extremely fortunate for Gifford.
If Jared played a lot of video maze games he got the point-and-shoot thing down pat. A few years ago there was a spate of convenience store robberies committed by very young dudes armed with pistols wherein if the clerk moved unexpectedly the kid shot him, usually in the forehead. It turned out these kids had been video gamers who learned instant point and shoot and got good playing these games. The shootings were “accidental” in that the shooters did not intend them but a move by the clerk triggered what was by then almost an instinctive reaction in the robber. For a while the military used those games to train infantry but then developed its own more sophisticated games.
I bet Jared was a video gamer.
9mm ball ammo and a crowd surrounding those closet to him, preventing their scatter.
All he had to do was shoot into the crowd...couldn't miss.
Jared used to shoot cans in the desert with a buddy.
Wow. He plinked at cans and thus was able to score 30 hits with 30 shots. Of course! Why didn’t I think of that? Anyway the victims were not grouped in a tight circle while they waited to get shot:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/15medical.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
The victims dropped where they stood, forming a row 20 or 30 feet long.
More info you don’t want to know about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdBrcSGqw-w&feature=related
witness Andrea Gooden:
(30 sec mark)
Q: “And did you see an immediate emergency response? Did you sense that security detail may have been on... on scene already?”
A: “I did sense that. There was an immediate response within a minute...”
The witness had the feeling the cops were ON SCENE ALREADY. This reeks of a pre-planned covert op.
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