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Is college athletics a sweatshop?
CNN.com ^ | January 9, 2011 | Bob Greene

Posted on 01/10/2011 6:39:07 AM PST by Celtic Cross

(CNN) -- On Monday night, with millions of fans watching every play, Auburn will take on Oregon for the national championship of college football.

If you're viewing at home, you may notice the same thing you can observe each season at every massive college football stadium or glistening big-time college basketball arena:

Everyone working in the place is being paid: the hot dog vendors, the television broadcasters, the guy peddling game-day programs, the person who manufactured the university-logo jerseys and caps that are for sale at the souvenir stands, the employees changing lightbulbs in the tunnels. ...

Everyone except the people who are most responsible for putting the fans in the seats and in front of the TV screens at home: everyone except the players on the field.

(Yes, most if not all of them are the recipients of university scholarships. We'll get to that in a few moments.)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: college; scholarships
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This makes my blood boil.

"He said that the so-called "free ride"-- the popular term for athletic scholarships -- usually doesn't pay for an athlete's day-to-day living expenses, which some college athletes struggle to meet."

As do all college students, especially those who receive no money from the college because theres not enough left over after the athletes get their free ride.

Nobody is holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. If they're not pleased with just a full scholarship, they can take their pampered selves someplace else.

1 posted on 01/10/2011 6:39:13 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: Celtic Cross
How much does a College education go for these days? $40,000-$50,000?

Sounds like a good way to work your way through school to me. (I know that not all players get scholarships.)

2 posted on 01/10/2011 6:42:26 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Celtic Cross

Between tuition, and room and board, transportation to and from home a couple of times a year; it’s about $30-40,000.

Add great looking women wanting to be with you, it’s not a bad deal for the players.


3 posted on 01/10/2011 6:44:16 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Celtic Cross

Same here. What little I hear on the local AM stations some evenings right before I flip the station is the worship of college and in some cases HS ball players. Someone wants to play and does well, no problems there but the worship is unreal.


4 posted on 01/10/2011 6:45:57 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Celtic Cross
Nobody is holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. If they're not pleased with just a full scholarship, they can take their pampered selves someplace else.

...and THAT should be the beginning AND the end of the discussion.

5 posted on 01/10/2011 6:47:19 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Celtic Cross

And the kids are not allowed to have jobs or receive outside assistance lest they be corrupted. Well, when the kid’s family is poor as dirt how is the kid supposed to get by?


6 posted on 01/10/2011 6:48:17 AM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: Celtic Cross

“As do all college students, especially those who receive no money from the college because theres not enough left over after the athletes get their free ride. “

You think? Ohio State University got roughly $14 million for their appearance in the Sugar Bowl. That doesn’t count television revenue, ticket sales, and advertising throughout the season. The football team and the basketball team at most division I schools pays for the rest of the sports programs.

Football and basketball are big business at major colleges. The problem is, how do you break that out from everyone else? In the communist view, all must be treated the same. A member of the golf team, or tennis team is to be valued equally to the football team members.

Baloney, if a sport makes BIG money for a school, the athletes should be compensated. Yes, football and basketball players should get a stipend. Golf team, tennis team, volleyball team, sorry about your luck.


7 posted on 01/10/2011 6:49:17 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

However,they don’t cover tattoos and gang-banger clothing!


8 posted on 01/10/2011 6:50:40 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Celtic Cross

Do Democrats sh*t in the woods???????? Yes!


9 posted on 01/10/2011 6:52:13 AM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: Celtic Cross

Almost everyone of these kids who finish their eligibility or graduate, and are not selected to play in the next level—pro—,always end up in very good jobs given to them by influential alumni whether the former athlete is a glorified car salesmen,customer service rep or in marketing.

Alumni give the The former players these jobs as in public relations to sell/market the alumnus businesses.

Capitalism works well if we let it.


10 posted on 01/10/2011 6:53:47 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: WayneS

And it is naive and dripping with resentment.

These kids bring in millions of dollars for their university but are denied the opportunity to make extra money on the side to help get them through. For schools that recruit in poor areas the kids they bring in are not getting any real support from home. What good is a scholarship if the kids are destitute? If the kids are found to be getting perks like free meals from a local restaurant or getting some support from a booster then they lose their eligibility. Meanwhile, Head Coach gets an athletic shoe contract, a radio show, commercials and other $$ slots. A few million a year for the labors of a bunch of young men.

The system sucks....


11 posted on 01/10/2011 6:55:07 AM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: misterrob
"..dripping with resentment"

Feel free to speak for yourself, but do not EVER assign me my thoughts and motives.

12 posted on 01/10/2011 6:57:49 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Celtic Cross

Eliminate athletic scholarships and force these universities to focus on their core mission of educating students for tomorrow’s work needs. Sports team will still be there, however, the particpants will be actual students.


13 posted on 01/10/2011 6:59:06 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Celtic Cross

It’s liberal ideology. Someone else makes money off of your labor. If they didn’t there wouldn’t be a job. I’m still paying off my student loans. Wonder how many student loans the football team has to deal with? It’s class warfare.

As far as the value of an education it varies from school to school. A full ride at Stanford can be worth $250,000. That ain’t working free.


14 posted on 01/10/2011 7:01:16 AM PST by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: WayneS

shakin in my boots, bud


15 posted on 01/10/2011 7:01:20 AM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: misterrob

Then start a league with your own money and treat them “right”. You’ll obviously run e NCAA out of business.


16 posted on 01/10/2011 7:03:12 AM PST by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: misterrob

Athletes are allowed to work during the summer months. At Ohio State, football players receive a $1600 a month stipend part of which is for housing. Apartments near OSU go for much less than that, so the rest of the money can be used for other needs (like skin art).


17 posted on 01/10/2011 7:04:12 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Celtic Cross
I coached lower-division college football and now coach High School football. I also have a son now being recruited to play at DI-FBS and DII schools.

In my opinion, unions would kill the smaller/weaker programs and weed out alot opportunities to get good educations for high school athletes.

This is the same reason why I am against a college football playoff for DI-FSC. It would pair down college football to 30-40 teams and greatly reduce the athletic budgets and opportunities for vast numbers of athletes in many sports (college football and men's basketball are the only athletic money-makers for athletic programs and in some cases fund the budgets of all of the other sports at the university) that never will play professional sports.

Articles like this are written from the perspective of the very few elite of the elite that will play at the professional level.

18 posted on 01/10/2011 7:05:12 AM PST by rightsmart
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To: Lost Highway

What a simplistic answer to a problem of corruption


19 posted on 01/10/2011 7:12:34 AM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: Celtic Cross; All
Its just such a crock. Because of the level of athletic ability expected these days, its impossible to do well academically and maintain competency in sports. And a lot of the athletes aren't particularly smart anyway.

College is meant for education, not to be payed for a voluntary sport. My brother attends a private college, 'competitively priced', at $45,000 including room and board! Needless to say, he lives at home, paying 'only' the $32,000 a year tuition. For a respectable but never-heard-of college. He got the biggest scholarship open to home-schoolers, which covers less than half. Meanwhile these nitwits athletes who don't know an book from a blank get a free ride.

20 posted on 01/10/2011 7:16:08 AM PST by Celtic Cross (FREEPING ONE YEAR +2!!!)
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