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To: my small voice
What I really find fascinating is that their type of intelligence doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Where is today’s Beethoven? These guys wrote celebrated compositions in DAYS from pen to performance and were unbelieveably prolific in their output (Bach, Beethoven, Telemann, Handel, Donizetti, Mozart). Today is is an endeavor that takes months or years to come out with 1 composition considered noteworthy.

I've had this discussion before regarding the lack of great composers (like Bach, Beethoven, Mozart) in modern times. The answer is so obvious that many people overlook it.

The period that roughly runs from 1600 to 1850 was a unique time in human civilization. For the first time, people with artistic ability were able to completely devote themselves to their craft thanks to patronage - a practice where wealthy individuals (usually in the ruling class) would "sponsor" an artist by either taking him into their household as a servant or providing financial support.

Yet this period of time was also before television, radio, mass media, and the countless other distractions that occupy our modern lives. So these artists and composers were basically working on their craft from sunup to sundown with little or no interruption from outside sources.

It is hard to imagine today what everyday life was like back in the days of Johann Sebastian Bach or Ludwig Beethoven but if we could, we would likely find it incredibly boring. So if you were a composer during those times, well, that is pretty much what you did the entire day (when you weren't teaching students or conducting performances of your compositions).

In sort, there are simply too many distractions in our daily life to ever attain the compositional skill set of even a Handel, Haydn or Schubert. Imagine if Ludwig Beethoven was around today, fighting traffic jams on the interstate to get to and from work, checking his stocks on his home computer, watching the NFL playoffs on TV, flying to places like New York, Chicago and Los Angeles to meet with orchestras performing his works, downloading the latest John Grisham novel to his Kindle, playing Wii video games with his nephew, meeting with film directors who have contracted him to score their movies, trying to get his laptop to boot up so he can get a little composing in before the Jets-Colts game...and on and on.

While Beethoven would still be a very successful composer today based on his abilities, he'd likely never be able to produce works on the scale of the Fifth Symphony or Missa Solemnis as he did back when there were not all these distractions of modern life.

49 posted on 01/09/2011 8:21:15 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Couldn't agree more. That is a case made for a slower world and dedication to one's passion. Same thing can be said for the moon landing. I have heard said many times that we do not have the technology to go back today. When you look back and realize that the boys in that control room were largely recent college grads and then look at their counterparts today, it makes you more cognizant of how big the difference really is. When you look at all we enjoy today...how much was birthed during slower times by the true experts? Makes you wonder what life will resemble in another generation or two (given how fast we have fallen in the past 40 years). We are stimulating ourselves into Idiocy!
115 posted on 01/09/2011 4:33:06 PM PST by my small voice
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To: SamAdams76
Ehhhh...nope...don't buy it...not for a minute. But, allow me to quickly add that I have no answer as to why we do not have any Bachs or Ludwig vans today (or at least ones we know about now).

Because they did not have air travel, autos, electricity or the Internet in the 18th century allowed Beethoven's or Bach's genius to develop?

They had their own social networks back then which kept them busy...they had to do much more for themselves in order to have food and clothes. Many of the middle class learned to play instruments and anxiously awaited the latest sheet music of contemporary composers so that they could get together and play them.

Bach worked for the church essentially his whole life, loved his wife and his many children and still put out a cantata per week. Mozart's music came to him essentially "finished" in his head and he needed to find the time to transcribe it; Beethoven worked and re-worked pieces for DECADES.

Musical geniuses are born and the times they are born into mold the music they make; if Bach were born in 1785 rather than 1685 his compositions would have been very different; and perhaps he would not have even been remembered today.

117 posted on 01/09/2011 5:10:54 PM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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