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To: RegulatorCountry
I have some past experience with lucid dreaming. It’s not all fun and games. For me it was not a positive experience, it was very disturbing.

Look into Carlos Castaneda, in particular his personal life and that of his close associates, to see what can happen.

It’s opening a door that should remain closed, imho. I can see how it would send an already disturbed individual over the edge. The bounds of waking and sleeping, fantasy and reality can and do get obscured.

Read Loughner’s rambling screeds again knowing this, and the one thing that shines through is that he thinks he’s as able to manipulate and control waking reality as he is in the fleeting unreality of his dreams.

Some dream beings persist, though. You’re not in control of them. This is a time honored and known experience of practically all who attempt to practice lucid or conscious dreaming, to the point of being regarded as “spirit guides.”

Castaneda advised embracing them. Very bad idea, imho. Particularly if you’re Christian. I am, now.

Thank you! That's exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm particularly interested in what you said here:

Read Loughner’s rambling screeds again knowing this, and the one thing that shines through is that he thinks he’s as able to manipulate and control waking reality as he is in the fleeting unreality of his dreams
I didn't discern that. What's stands out to you? Is it the wierd repetition?
21 posted on 01/09/2011 7:33:08 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

He put it into words, or didn’t. Therefore to him it is, or isn’t.


39 posted on 01/09/2011 9:19:10 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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