Posted on 01/08/2011 1:39:16 AM PST by Swordmaker
I would say that, at this point in the development of Android 2.2 devices with Flash 10.1, there really aren’t any super, super great videos showing what these 2.2s with 10.1 can or can’t do. We can see youtube clips embedded in standard web pages. That either is, or isn’t an advantage over apple.
Does your apple show the videos on this page, embedded on this page? Whether it’s the flash format or the h.264 codec or whatever. Does the video show
within the page? http://www.slatedroid.com/index.php?topic=13074.0
And, what would be a URL of something that you think Android 2.2 with Flash 10.1 would completely fail at?
We’re agreed that there may very well be flash that totally fails, what would be just one url for me to look at?
I don’t think it’s silly to have an embedded video in a webpage tablet sized, especially since these Android tablets do have hdmi out, so the tablet can be hooked up to a tv.
Besides, these tablets, some of em, have 800x600 resolution. Good enough to show a webpage. I see no reason why I can’t see a youtube video the way it’s supposed to be seen. I like how it worked on the MID816.
Well.. I guess I would say later this year and next year. Most of this tech I saw at the show was slated for release of May, June, and July.
YouTube encodes video in both H.264 and Flash. The tablet in the demo is probably loading the Flash version. I have no reason to doubt the claim. All that demonstrates is that the Android tablets can load the same content as the iPhone, but in a less-efficient format that burns through batteries faster.
Which is it? Does it not work, or it works but with higher power consumption? You cannot have it both ways!
I'm very interested in the RIM Playbook, It will support Flash 10.1 and Adobe Air as well as HTML 5. It has a 7" LCD display, and 1024 x 600 screen resolution. It's OS is QNX so I can't wait to get my hands on it.
Video playback works badly. All the other features of Flash don't work at all.
I think it's a safe assumption that they do not offer full Flash functionality. I doubt that they aren't demonstrating it because all the makers of Android tablets suddenly became shy.
Does your apple show the videos on this page, embedded on this page?
As I said before, my iPhone plays the video full-screen. It's a phone. Playing the video inline, in a one-inch window, would be silly. From a little googling, apparently the iPad does play videos inline.
We’re agreed that there may very well be flash that totally fails, what would be just one url for me to look at?
http://www.driveangry3d.com/#/gallery. It was the first flashy, bad Web site for a flashy, bad movie to spring to mind.
Did you get to see the Honeycomb tablet or tablets?
What kind of limitation did you see in the Flash on these newer tablets?
It it as bad as Reign says or is it useable in most cases?
Any clear instances of Flash failing?
I’d like to see videos of flash 10.1 on android 2.2 failing and videos of flash 10.1 on android 2.2 succeeding. The you tube embedded video works as normal on l0.1/2.2
My computer, a standard laptop, not too old or new, struggled with that drive angry website. So, that might just be very poor website design on their part, and not a problem with flash. There’s lots of terrible pointless flash on the internet. But there’s also good useful flash on the internet being used by websites i do like to look at.
It might not be worthwhile to view the video inline on an iphone, but it would be worthwhile to view the video inline on a ipad.
The little bit I got to see of Honeycomb working, I saw no problems with flash. I tested it on a few flash intensive sites, and not a single glitch or issue. Now granted in 10 mins at a booth, its not a real world test, but it sure looked great and worked perfectly while I was testing it.
Honeycomb has some neat features as well.. I like some of the new widgets as well as the speed of the OS. Its a bit smoother and faster than froyo.
Given that it will guarantee the same website experience on multiple platforms (as PDF did for viewing documents), I would think support for Flash would be a natural goal of any Internet device. Ideally you would support every possible encoding standard out there - otherwise you are purposefully NOT supporting the entire web.
That’s good to hear. You have much more experience with these devices, and you are saying with your hands on experience that Flash does work well on these devices. I have been having problems finding exactly what I’m looking for in terms of test results. But it seems it does work. That’s good.
I agree entirely. Good to hear that Flash does work great on Android devices.
Here’s something I found as well
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/20/adobe-flash-10-1-on-google-nexus-one-almost-flawless-performance-as-expected/
Adobe Flash 10.1 on Google Nexus One – Almost flawless performance, as expected
So, it’s really fairly clear, and not disputed. Adobe Flash 10.1 does work very well on Android 2.2 and later devices and did work very well on at least one 2.1 Android device.
Yeah see I can get flash working on mine and mine is a cheap import from China. I just rooted it, upgraded the OS, and now I can watch youtube videos and use flash on it. Its not as good as the new tablets I saw at CES, but it works.. so flash is not a big issue now that they are running Android 3.0.
Its been really interesting to watch these develop. I can see them taking over the PC for business use in the future. They are VERY handy.
I think that these android devices will be able at some time to be able to replace desktops in the home. Many not for all, but for many. Apple is showing that it wants to present its own version of the web, Google seems to be trying to provide the best possible product.
I’m also watching this fairly closely. I’m thinking about getting the MID816. Also thinking about waiting until Honeycomb. You can completely replace the hard drive on the MID816. It’s on the microsd card. The device is said to be unbrickable based on that.
That's the most promising video I've seen, but it's still a brief canned demo with hand-picked sites selected by Adobe. There is still no hands-on field test, where the reviewer could test on a broad variety of sites over a number of days report on things like the effect on battery life and the frequency of crashes. CNet, Gizmodo, PC World, Anandtech,
Throughout this thread, I have had a painfully simple question -- If I have cash in hand and want to buy a tablet that runs Flash reliably, what should I buy? -- and I still have no answer based on anything other than manufacturers' promises.
As an amusing aside, Anandtech had an interesting article about tablets taking over a tech trade show. The trade show was Comdex 2002.
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