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An Evangelical Backlash Against Environmentalism
New York Times ^ | 12/30/2010 | John Collins Rudolf

Posted on 01/05/2011 3:53:28 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman

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1 posted on 01/05/2011 3:53:28 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

This is what happens when evangelicals jump on the secular bandwagon. Their job is to spread the Gospel message. Leave that and it turns into quicksand.


2 posted on 01/05/2011 7:53:42 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
many evangelical Christians have embraced the doctrine called creation care

They have?

3 posted on 01/05/2011 8:01:02 PM PST by iowamark
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There’s been some linguistic drift in recent years. Last week I read this article that referred to “Catholic nuns and other Evangelicals” ~ which was just too cute for words.


4 posted on 01/05/2011 8:07:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: taxesareforever

We are to be good stewards of that which we have dominion over, but we are to only worship the Creator and not the creation. Some seem to get confused on that point.


5 posted on 01/05/2011 8:10:18 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: skr

Amen.


6 posted on 01/05/2011 8:24:15 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever

The Apostle Paul, being not confused as to the purpose of his calling, said “I am determined to know nothing among you save Christ, and him crucified.”


7 posted on 01/05/2011 8:27:54 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: skr
We are to be good stewards of that which we have dominion over, but we are to only worship the Creator and not the creation. Some seem to get confused on that point.

Amen.

...Romans 1:25 "...Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature [creation] more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen..."

Being good stewards of the creation that God put into subjection to us is one thing, out and out Gaia worship - and believing in AGW climate change myths is something else...

And another thing, Good Stewards should be able to use DDT to control the 'thorns and thistles' of the fallen creation...

8 posted on 01/05/2011 8:39:51 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 01/06/2011 3:53:25 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: taxesareforever

I’m not sure that what you’re reading is what I’m reading. This article states that the evangelicals are resisting the green movement, not assisting it.


10 posted on 01/06/2011 4:09:45 AM PST by marvlus
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

I have been trying to get some of my Sunday School members to understand the fact that when God remakes the Earth in the Book of Revelation, there is no great rapture of Blue Whales, or polar bears, or dogs, or kittens or anything else. It all gets burned up. That is why we are told not to put our faith in things on earth. They are all going away.

Only one thing that man made which will be in Heaven.
The holes in Jesus’ hands, feet and sides. That will be the only work of “man” in Eternity.


11 posted on 01/06/2011 5:11:20 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: iowamark

Yes, they have.


12 posted on 01/06/2011 10:18:50 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: marvlus

Yes, but they have also been forced to fight them over this thing called creation care - an green trojan horse inside the church.


13 posted on 01/06/2011 10:20:49 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: wbarmy

Keep in mind that the Millennial Kingdom will be populated with animals (for example - Isaiah 11:1-10), and I suspect the same will be true in the new heavens and the new earth as well (Revelation 21-22)since they are trees and water mentioned. I think Christians also need to be wary of a Greek view of heaven that places us on floating clouds in the sky playing our harpsicords forever. Heaven will be a very robust busy place, full of nations, commerce, trade, and I believe animals too.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 10:25:52 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: skr

The command given to Adam & Eve in Genesis 1 was to subdue and fill the earth. At the time the command was issued, that meant to convert the wilderness into a garden, with Eden serving as the model or guide to follow. After the fall into sin, however, as the very ground was cursed, this was no longer possible. Yet the command to subdue and fill the earth remains and was never rescinded. However, since nature is now cursed, man is disciplined in the process as he tries to subdue and fill the earth. Corruption and pollution are all a part of this process just as surely as weeds, thorns, and bad soils have created a lot of blood, sweat, and tears over the centuries and millenia.

As a subpoint, and as a farmer, I can rest assure you that animals love gardens more than they love the wilderness. the wilderness is not a pleasant place to live even for the animals. Furthermore, wild animals heading for the ‘protection’ of the wilderness was certainly intensified after the Flood in Genesis 9 when God intervened and caused the animals to be fearful of man.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 10:28:06 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: taxesareforever

Our mandate is make disciples, which also transcends evangelism. Christians are to become learners and practitioners of the gospel of grace.


16 posted on 01/06/2011 10:29:43 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: muawiyah
Evangelicals are waking up to the “False God?”, I am not Evangelical and I am surprised they bought in, in the first place.
17 posted on 01/06/2011 10:35:45 AM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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I understand, and agree with your analysis of the text. All that I was trying to say was that no matter what we do, WE are not saving the Earth by any of the environmental measures that people try to force on us. There is no SAVING the Earth, it will ultimately be destroyed and rebuilt by God. We should live as God wants us to, not wantonly destroying or polluting the Earth, but neither should we be sacrificing human lives and futures to some environmental Gaia type belief.
18 posted on 01/06/2011 10:36:57 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: marvlus

Why are evangelicals even mentioned if they weren’t involved in it in the first place? They were involved. Why do evangelicals have to form a coalition to oppose climate change issues?

Read the first two paragraphs. Evangelicals were involved in promoting climate change issues. Evangelicals have a purpose and it is not to use their energies to combat or promote climate change issues. The goal of evangelicals should be to spreading the Gospel message and leave the climate to God who is in control of it no matter what man says or promotes.


19 posted on 01/06/2011 10:47:20 AM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever

All just a sign of the growing totalitarian times we live in.


20 posted on 01/06/2011 10:59:04 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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