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They develop stuff for years in their labs before the public sees any products.

You assume that Microsoft and HP and Dell and Google and IBM and Toshiba and Samsung and Motorola and all other technology companies aren't also doing things in their labs which will counter or preempt anything that Apple might be doing.

Where, for example, is Apple's equivalent to the XBox360, or Apple's equivalent to the Kinect or Apple's equivalent to Bing or Google search? Now, in every category where Apple made big news in the last 3 or 4 years, like the iPhones and iPads, there were, soon after, competitors from any different sources. Apple cannot seem to make anything that is "exclusively" theirs for a long time.

Now, how was Apple "inventive" or "innovative" when all that they did was to take a couple of mousetraps and create better mousetraps? I mean, weren't there smartphones before the iPhone came along, and weren't there tablets before the iPad came along.

It seems like you're one of those that is so blinded by your love for anything Apple, that you're not looking at the real facts.

You assume that Microsoft and HP and Dell and Google and IBM and Toshiba and Samsung and Motorola and all other technology companies aren't also doing things in their labs which will counter or preempt anything that Apple might be doing.

I have not doubt that all of those companies are doing research. But why was Apple first with the iPhone, the multi-touch smart phone? Why does Apple dominate in music sales and playback with the iPod and now the iPod touch?

Where, for example, is Apple's equivalent to the XBox360, or Apple's equivalent to the Kinect or Apple's equivalent to Bing or Google search?

Well, Google wasn't the first with search. I remember when Alta Vista dominated, then Yahoo. But Google did search so well, they now dominate. Microsoft is copying with Bing. But it's now clear yet how much of the market MS will get. Search is not part of Apple's game plan.

Now, in every category where Apple made big news in the last 3 or 4 years, like the iPhones and iPads, there were, soon after, competitors from any different sources. Apple cannot seem to make anything that is "exclusively" theirs for a long time.

Exactly. Apple leads and then everyone else copies. Why are all those other companies bringing out multi-touch smart phones in imitation of the iPhone? Can't those other companies come up with their own innovations rather than copying the successes of Apple?

Now, how was Apple "inventive" or "innovative" when all that they did was to take a couple of mousetraps and create better mousetraps?

The sales figures tell the story. Apple pays a lot of attention of user interfaces and ease of use. Apple did it right. And now a lot of companies are copying Apple's success.

I mean, weren't there smartphones before the iPhone came along, and weren't there tablets before the iPad came along.

You claim to be interested in the facts. The sales figures are the facts. The iPhone has been a huge success, generating huge profits for Apples. The same is true for the iPad. Look at the sales figures. There are the facts you are looking for.

It seems like you're one of those that is so blinded by your love for anything Apple, that you're not looking at the real facts.

I an presenting the facts. Where are your facts? Please present some facts rather than express your extreme hatred which blinds you to the facts--sales figures and profits.