[Marine_Uncle]

Welcome back from the high country. As I get a headache reading some of the stuff at the linked sites... and squirm around in my chair as the pains set in from hoofing tons of snow off my property and side walk from yesterday's storm...time for some Advil... I get images of how bitter cold and snow bound most of the northern hemisphere has been getting so early in winter and the later fall period for the second year in the row... and get images of the snow that fell just north of Melbourne in their first week of Summer for the second year in a row.
There must be a way we can figure out how to increase the actual global temperatures so that plants can grow well, produce more food for the world's population, by providing longer growing seasons contrary to what we are seeing for the past few years in the opposite direction.
Since CO2 is such a minute percentage of our total air volume we have to find some better gas to try to warm the earth up a bit so that the good folks and critters in the rivers and swamps of South America don't freeze their asses off for another year once they go back into winter mode.
Not of course leaving out the increasing poor souls in the northern hemisphere in mostly Europe and Asia that had froze to death for the past few years as the winter temps plummet well below the averages.
Maybe we could make a collective call to big Al Gore as to what gas might be considered. He has known all the answers to our earthly problems for so long. What a guy. Maybe he should run against Hillary and the Kenyan this next time around.
It could make for a great amount of comic relieve. Big Al could save the world, along with Holdren, Maurice Strong, Hansen and say Goldman Sachs.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

LOL....it was much cooler up there.....and the Mojave river has a fair amount of water in it....flows out to Death Valley by the way.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The Spencer videos linked at Post #9 are not the best ...but want to spent some more time on them.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The commenter Onion is getting hammered in the comments....(I think he wandered into a forum he was not familiar with )>>>

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David L says:

December 28, 2010 at 6:32 am

onion says:
December 28, 2010 at 5:57 am
“…So whether you consider the science very certain or very uncertain, there’s no basis to argue that the ongoing CO2 rise is safe. To know it was safe we’d need the science to be very certain that a doubling of CO2 had little effect on the Earth. We can’t conclude that though if we argue that the science isn’t settled and is all very uncertain.”

Onion, that’s the logical fallacy of Argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument to ignorance).

You can’t assume it’s true because it hasn’t been proven false.