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To: RobRoy
I would like to respond to you saying that Genesis 1:2 said there was a flood. I think that is not really accurate. At least as I see it. When taken in context with 1:9 I see it as the earth being like a cue ball with a relatively uniform earthen surface covered by a relatively consistent layer of water.. And then the ground lifted up in places to be above the water and in 1:10 He calls the dry ground “land”. To interpret the scripture to say “there was a flood” is kinda like saying there is “a flood” in the middle of the Pacific. A flood implies normally dry ground that is flooded with water. I think Genesis 1:9 describes the first time ever that land was above the water. In fact, one could argue that in Genesis 1:2, where it says the earth was “formless and empty” that it was sort of describing an “earth” that was nothing BUT water. Of course, within the context of our current physical laws, that would not be possible. there would be interesting pressures on the water at the center of this giant water drop in space. But I am starting to argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. We all run the risk of arguing information that is our inference only.

When did the first rebel rebel? He is symbolically called the 'tree of the knowledge of good and evil'. When did the evil happen and what was the evil knowledge that this tree symbolically speaking contained? When did this division occur? The first rebel is not fully described in his 'origin' until Ezekiel 28:12--- and slightly different 'fallen' description in Isaiah 14:12---.

Moses was not yet born of woman when the events of Genesis up to Exodus 2, and up until Exodus 3, Moses was treated and educated as Egyptian.

None can call Moses uneducated, or solely indoctrinated in the 'Hebrew' tradition, he had a 'secular/pagan' upbringing at the very least and at most training of the knowledge of Pharaohs.

So what Moses penned up to his first hand experience and personal observation would be of necessity Divine inspired WORD.

Moses is given and pens a 'chronology' of events without the date and time of Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:2. What can be dated with a 'comfortable' measure of time is how long ago Adam was formed.

Genesis 1:2 'WAS' not the state of creation, but 'became' without form, and void; Without form means 'waste', and apparently the Divine wanted it to be known that He did not created a 'waste' as so noted in Isaiah 45:18.

There is no mention of the creation in Moses account of the creation/formation of the dinosaurs, yet, they are described in Job. I have read that Moses is the most likely author of the book of Job, and if that is the case then Moses would have had the Egyptian education working in his mind as he was given the WORD to pen.

Jeremiah 4:19-31 speaks of a destruction where everything was destroyed, and Jeremiah uses the very same words (Hebrew) as used in Genesis 1:2 'without form and void; and the heavens, and they had no light'.

Christ and Paul use the word 'foundation', and when that word is defined to the prime it means casting down/overthrow. And Peter says there are three different heaven/earth worlds/ages and the world that WAS was destroyed by water and all that lived perished. Noah's flood was brought forth to protect the bloodline to Christ.

99 posted on 01/20/2011 10:58:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Interesting hypotheses. I’ll have to ask God about them after I die.

The problem with a lot of this “educated speculation” on what is meant by the words used in the Genisis account of creation is that the information is incomplete. Or, a better explanation would be that it is incomplete within the context of what we humans actually know. I think that much of the bible, when dealing with things spiritual or without eyewitness account, is akin to explaining the color “red” to a person that only sees grayscale. It is amazing it is able to communicate anything at all.

I am also reminded of the line in a song by the group Genesis: “They’re trying to find themselves an audience. Their deductions need applause.”


100 posted on 01/20/2011 11:06:04 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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