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To: Moonman62
You're leaving out beneficial mutations such as duplications, which voids your math and conclusions.

Assuming there WAS such a thing in the world (there isn't) as a beneficial mutation, then to get past the Haldane dilemma you'd have to be substituting very large numbers of beneficial mutations into the population on a continual basis.

In other words, you'd need to get God to suspend the laws of probability for your benefit. The problem is that the overwhelming bulk of mutations are harmful or fatal and that substituting large numbers of mutations into a population of animals will destroy it. The short version of the dilemma I noted involves one beneficial mutation per generation being substituted into the population which is wildly beyond anything that could ever happen in real life. Haldane himself came to a number sort of like 300 generations to substitute one mutation into any sizable population of creatures and that's without the population being scattered across continents. That's where the talk of quadrillions of years comes from.

33 posted on 12/25/2010 8:34:24 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Wait a minute...theres no such thing as the world? OK, clearly I’m in the wrong place...


62 posted on 12/26/2010 12:10:44 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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