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To: allmendream
"Science is not based on the assumption that there is no God. That is your first bit of absolute idiocy.

Please provide examples in the scientific literature that appeal to the supernatural as the explanation for any scientific theory.

"Science is “wonderful” you say? And yet you also believe that its starting assumption is that there is no God? How wonderful!!!"

Please provide examples in the scientific literature that appeal to the supernatural as the explanation for any scientific theory.

"But yes, there is no such thing as supernatural causation in science, you have that at least somewhat correct."

Please provide examples in the scientific literature that appeal to the supernatural as the explanation for any scientific theory.

"If someone were to suppose that a supernatural force were dragging the massive Sun around the tiny Earth while leaving the Earth motionless; that would most assuredly NOT be scientific, any more than the speculation that the Grand Canyon was dug out in one day by a giant and his giant blue ox."

Nor is it scientific to propose that the Grand Canyon was formed in unobserved, assumed time frames that may not even exist. 'Ad hoc story-telling' is not science, it is philosophy

329 posted on 12/22/2010 2:59:15 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

So unless science presupposes supernatural causation as an explanation that assumes there is no God?

Only if you suppose that God only acts upon the universe using supernatural causation and not ever any physical means.

If God, for example, created Gravity; then a study of how Gravity results in the Earth being in orbit around the Sun is not presupposing that there is no God.

So how can a system for gaining knowledge be simultaneously “wonderful” and also “based upon the assumption that there is no God”?

It is “wonderful” to assume that there is no God in your deluded mind?


331 posted on 12/22/2010 3:48:26 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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