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To: SunkenCiv

“The only ruler who didn’t manifest that way was Edward VI (Edward so-called the V was the elder of the two missing princes) and he didn’t live long enough to get there, imho.”

I agree totally.

The Tudors were from evil seed, the offspring of a Welsh Gigolo, Owen Tudor.

I remember reading somewhere that there was picture of Richard III showing him with a hunchback and later analysis indicates the picture was ALTERED after the original painting by ADDING the hunchback.

I remember reading about that betrayal at Bosworth. I think the parties involved werer barons from the North of England.

Richard III was a warrior - a real fighter who engaged in battle with armor and hand weapons on horseback - NOT the activity of someone with a physical handicap. This is contrasted with the evil and weak body of Henry VII.

Something more than Richard III died at Bosworth Field. While the Plantagents could be cruel, NO ONE can deny that they were brave fighters and courageous warrior kings who fought in combat and not hidden behind their generals and troops. They really were story book kings unlike the depraved and weakened degenerates who succeeded them.

Thanks for those links. I will check them out.

The Plantagenets interested me since I read “Kings and Things”, and Costain’s series “The Cpnquering Family”, “The Magnificent Century” “The Three Edwards” and “The Last Plantagents” as a child.

See:

http://www.richardiii.net/


28 posted on 12/07/2010 11:28:22 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: ZULU

The painting generally thought to be the portrait of Richard III is (if memory serves) just someone’s guess of who it supposed to portray — it wouldn’t have been displayed anywhere at court, anymore than those of the former wives of Hank 8.

But anyway, I’m not a royalist, and all of them are lucky I don’t have a time machine. Actually, my first stop would be in the 7th century, shhh, don’t tell anybody...


29 posted on 12/07/2010 2:54:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: ZULU

A college chum (speaking of time travel, and of the Plantagenets) said that if he could sit down with anyone from that era, it would be John of Gaunt, the “kingmaker”.


30 posted on 12/07/2010 3:50:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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