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Electoral college math for Sarah Palin (she is very electable)
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Posted on 11/26/2010 10:58:03 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: Jim Noble
You've gotten a little carried away.

I HOPE so.
But I'll bet there were many who thought the same about Paul Revere.

Nevertheless your illustrations demonstrate nothing.

Your German images are:
1-Not photos but graphics created to enhance the image of Gestapo as awe inspiring professionals. The images are propaganda.
2-Represent the Gestapo at the height of their power and prestige. They didn't begin that way.
3-Of officers, the elite of their service.

Your TSA images are photos:
1-Designed to show real people, warts and all, in the worst possible light. Used in this way they, too are propaganda.
2-Show TSA staff during the formative years of the agency. Early progenators of the Gestapo, the Brown Shirts, were often drunken brawlers frequenting German beerhalls lost within incoherent stupors.
3-Of lowly staff relatively untrained and undisciplined working for barely minimum wage.

This image comparison is foolish. It is as fair as comparing apples and raisins. See the images folowing:

The Usual Suspects:
Verbal:
Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
And like that, poof. He's gone.

The best trick the Ultra-leftists could ever pull is to convince American patriots they won't, or can't, or will be prevented somehow from seizing power.

"And like that, poof." They've done it.

141 posted on 11/27/2010 3:44:40 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: monocle

“...Whether warranted or not Sarah Palin has very high unfavorables ratings in the overall population”

They are not only unwarranted but they are very much exaggerated. She is much more popular and much more favorably viewed than CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. want you to believe. In case you haven’t figured it out those people LIE if the facts don’t support their agenda.

“Are you old enough to recall how the MSM totally destroyed Gerald Ford or Dan Quayle...”

I don’t know how old YOU are, but I was around when the media tried the same thing they are now doing to Palin with a guy named Reagan. They said many of the same sorts of things. In 1976 the Republicans didn’t nominate him for the same reasons you and many others are using to disqualify Palin. As a result we ended up with that disaster named Carter. In 1980 the republicans got it right, media be damned. The media did just what the republicans predicted they would do in 76, but this time it didn’t work. It doesn’t always work, you see.

You can let the MSM tell you what to do.

I won’t.

“...But an informed voter would be wholly negligent to ignore the effect the MSM has on a significant number of potential voters. “

Bull! An informed voter doesn’t base his vote on who the other guy is voting for. Voting for a candidate because we think other people will is what gives us Rinos.

“... MSM is waiting to sandbag her after the nomination. “

So we should only nominate a candidate that the MSM wants us to nominate? That got us McCain. Guess what? It doesn’t matter WHO the Republicans run, the MSM is going to sandbag them after the nomination.

You go ahead and let the MSM tell you what to do. I can think for myself.

I reject the notion that a Rino, ANY Rino is better than Obama. The difference between Obama and a Rino is that Obama is screwing up the country intentionally.


142 posted on 11/27/2010 4:41:43 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: NittanyLion

Then come up witn someone else who is conservative and has as much name recognition. Why is name recognition the key? Don’t blame me, well you know the rest.

There is NO ONE ELSE who has her conservative viewpoints and the name recognition.


143 posted on 11/27/2010 10:41:49 PM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: Kevmo

Did Bill Clinton have name recognition at this point in 1990? In truth it’s better to have little name recognition than lots accompanied by high negatives.


144 posted on 11/28/2010 5:13:09 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: CAluvdubya

I agree, California wasn’t always like this, but this state is gone now. The smart conservatives left for Arizona, Nevada, Colorado. The state has been overcome by liberals, illegals, etc.

And that’s the point. This state COULD NOT elect McClintock. He had no chance of winning.

So you have to ask yourself the flipside of the question. As much as I despise Arnold, what would it have been like if Cruz Bustamante had won?

That’s the same question you have to ask in 2012. Palin can’t win, so is it better to hold your nose and get someone who can (Pawlenty, Romney, etc) that may not be as conservative as you like, or is it better to have Obama another 4 years?

That, my friend, is the question.


145 posted on 11/28/2010 9:14:53 AM PST by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred

Sarah might make a fine President but I don’t think she can beat Obama. I think we need a governor. Someone like Christie would be perfect. Or even Perry. But they won’t run.


146 posted on 11/28/2010 9:26:44 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SideoutFred

Sarah might make a fine President but I don’t think she can beat Obama. I think we need a governor. Someone like Christie would be perfect. Or even Perry. But they won’t run.


147 posted on 11/28/2010 9:27:05 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SideoutFred

Sarah might make a fine President but I don’t think she can beat Obama. I think we need a governor. Someone like Christie would be perfect. Or even Perry. But they won’t run.


148 posted on 11/28/2010 9:27:10 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SideoutFred

Sarah might make a fine President but I don’t think she can beat Obama. I think we need a governor. Someone like Christie would be perfect. Or even Perry. But they won’t run.


149 posted on 11/28/2010 9:27:32 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: NittanyLion

It’s a simple matter. Support the most conservative candidate with the highest name recognition.

I was arguing from your side last time around when I was pushing for Duncan Hunter. He was the closest thing to a perfect conservative I had run across, but the lack of name recognition did him in with RINOs and the media. The RINOs basically look for any excuse not to back a conservative, while the media look for any excuse to exclude the conservative, which is why Hunter was not invited to the 2 most crucial debates even when he had more delegates than those participating.

This time around there’s a conservative with name recognition. Your approach only works well when there isn’t someone around sucking all the oxygen out of the air, the same way Fred did in the last election. And also, your point only really works well with democrats — who was the last conservative to win the GOP nomination who didn’t have solid name recognition?


150 posted on 11/28/2010 4:10:59 PM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Harry Truman grew up on a farm, but never owned one. He did work at a clerk, as a time keeper, as a haberdasher, a seller of clothes. He also played a good piano. He worked on his father’s farm, but left to make more money, because Bess had turned him down when he proposed. He served as an artillery commander in WWI.His haberdasher store went bankrupt in 1921.

He went into politics after WWI, and was a reliable man for the Prendergast machine after that. He had met Boss Prendergast’s nephew in the service. As senator his senate committee sought out waste, but never critized the FDR administration. They cut back on 105 and 155 artillery ammunition production, demanding that stocks in Africa be used before new production be permitted. That made US forces attack with less artillery, or to divert 3 inch tank destroyer fire to provide artillery.


151 posted on 11/28/2010 7:39:02 PM PST by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Your comparison is flawed. Truman became president when a wildly popular president died in office. He inherited a world war and the newly developed atom bomb. When he ran for the presidency, it really didn’t matter where he came from, only what he had done. None of these factors apply in 2012.


152 posted on 11/29/2010 10:24:10 PM PST by FourPeas (From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Ja 3:10)
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