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“OntheIssues.org” not the ACU. Ontheissues.org, run by Dr. Naomi Lichtenberg out of Cambridge Mass? Not a conservative organization. Think for yourself please. Taking any intellectual crap fed to you by anyone offering it makes you an easy dupe for the left.


375 posted on 11/26/2010 4:59:15 AM PST by November 2010
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“OntheIssues.org” not the ACU. Ontheissues.org, run by Dr. Naomi Lichtenberg out of Cambridge Mass? Not a conservative organization.

LOL!! Those "OnTheIssues" graphs have been used as a resource by everyone ever since I have been on FR... and they jibe perfectly with what I see going on with Palin (same thing as all the other neocons).

Odd, how the criteria used can generally identify easily recognizable rock-ribbed Conservatives(the ones that everyone will recognize as such), and equally demonstrate the close relationship of Bakerite neocons - If it were not for Palin's obvious shortcomings, I am sure you would agree with the rest.

Just like Value Voters (supposedly) being suddenly in the sack for Romney, and Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin being defamed and derided because they dare to speak crossly about Palin. Just as anyone here is slapped down as a troll or RomneyBot.

Every poll is false, and anyone who doesn't see Palin as the queen of the Conservatives (which she most definitely is *not*) must be part of the great conspiracy against her. PUULEASE!

Think for yourself please. [...]

How very condescending of you. I AM thinking for myself. Because of that, I am able to remain firmly outside of the Palinite echo chamber.

For instance, it takes no great amount of thought to realize that *no* financial conservative/ business conservative is going to vote for Palin after her collusion with democrats to foist a windfall profits tax (Oops, there I go again... *fees*) upon corporations in AK.

FICONS have been fighting this very beast as long as I have been politically aware. It is an unmovable principle among FICONS that she has sullied (and then brags about).

Palinites like to gloss that over, but it is an *insurmountable* mistake which tears at the very heart of the Reagan Coalition. She is no Reaganite, or she would *never* have done such a thing. it is unconscionable.

And more to the point, she cannot win without the fiscal conservatives.

The very same can be said for her position on abortion, which is sure to split the Christian Right. And *nobody* wins without the Christian Right.

[...] Taking any intellectual crap fed to you by anyone offering it makes you an easy dupe for the left.

LOL! This is Fred Thompson all over again, only worse. I am only judging her by her record (what little of it there is), as all true (Reagan) Conservatives are bound to do. Where record does not exist, I judge the words out of her mouth.

The "dupe" in this conversation doesn't realize that asking any conservative faction to compromise first principles will only lead to failure: Either a Pyrrhic victory (see GHWBush, GWBush), or a split in Conservatism as factional conservatives rally to candidates of their own. One of the two will happen invariably.

The "dupe" allows the Republican neocons to usurp the Conservative mantle by fragmenting the far right. The enemy within the gates is far more dangerous than the liberal left. When the Republicans win by compromise, that is also how they govern.

Regarding your comment “So did John McCain” the only time Palin said anything about a path to citizenship was when she was McCain’s running mate in Oct. 2008. You are getting suckered in my opinion; ignoring Palin’s actions on her own and focusing on the McCain campaign when she was restricted. [...] #376

You miss the point: A true Conservative would never have let such statements pass her lips. She certainly had no problem diverging from McCain't on ANWR drilling - she dissembled politely, but she spoke her mind. Since she *didn't* depart from McCain't on immigration, and was capable of speaking the words she did (without any real dissembling or nuance), I will continue to believe that she meant what she said, and that her words came from the heart.

[...] She’s learned her lesson for sure . . . she’s ignoring the establishment and doing what she thinks is right, to huge effect. #376

Your statement is based upon nothing more than faith in promises made with election in mind. Ambition is an exacting mistress.

The only way I would believe her (or respect her) is if she remained what she is now - an excellent foil- and used her popularity to lift up a qualified Reaganite candidate from media induced obscurity. As a kingmaker, she is in an unique and powerful position. As a candidate, she will bring nothing but division... Exactly like Fred.

377 posted on 11/26/2010 11:42:25 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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