phonics here... 1961
Posted on 11/16/2010 3:16:10 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice
I went to Catholic school in the '50s, and we were taught to read by sight. I still remember my first reading lesson: the nun wrote the word "Look" on the board and pointed out that it had two big eyes. We learned to read quickly, and I have always since been fast reader. Unfortunately, without phonics, I never really learned to spell, and have been a poor speller all my life.
My twin girls started school in Tennessee which uses phonics. When they were in first grade, I moved to Maine where they use whole word. My daughters in first grade were spelling phonetically with a southern accent. The teacher wanted to put them in remedial reading. I refused. At 23, their reading has obviously improved, but they still have problems with spelling quite often.
Phonics works, but there is the occasional child who can’t learn through phonics and must learn through other method (whole word, etc.)
Between my sister and I we were able to use phonics with all the kids, but one (they’re grown now, and have college degrees) so this was years ago and we didn’t think there was anything other than phonics. But one child could not process phonics and had to learn using a combination of other methods.
I asked a teacher who worked with learning disabilities and she said most kids can pick up phonics just fine, but there will be a child, from time to time, who has to be taught apart from phonics.
It doesn’t just teach phonics. It teaches every single step in the reading process.
Sight words screwed up my whole education. I have always had problems reading and spelling. I have, however, made it a game to get better.
Back when I started school (late 1950’s)...we used sight reading method (the Dick and Jane books were sight reading.) But our teacher taught us phonics too...she was old school.
“Government schools are institutionalized child abuse and need to be closed. All of them; no exceptions (not even your “really different” suburban schools).”
Liberals believe in Redistribution of Mind so that everyone is on the same mental level. Fiscal issues are important but I think that this an even bigger issue that isn’t addressed by most conservatives.
I attended Catholic School for 1st grade in 1970. Not sure if we used the same book, but I clearly remember a boy and a girl standing next to a Jetson's style flying saucer.
I'd say that Russian was about 95% phoenetic, German about 99%, and English about 50%. French is nearly as bad and it's likely that English inherits much of its fubar spelling from French.
“I asked a teacher who worked with learning disabilities and she said most kids can pick up phonics just fine, but there will be a child, from time to time, who has to be taught apart from phonics.”
I taught phonics and think it is the best way to learn to read; but, the “problem” is that people are individuals and no one size fits all. As a parent, you find what works. Some learn phonics at age 4; so learn look-say at age 8; some learn in a month; some take two years; some read phonetically but need spelling memorization; etc.
The problem, or one problem, with the big group school is, you have a class of 20 very distinct people all of whom probably would benefit from something tailored just to their strengths and weaknesses.
Which is why I have been homeschooling for excellence since 1992. . . in my family each child has made different rates of progress in different subjects at different times and it is my job to bring out each child’s maximum.
“I have, however, made it a game to get better.”
Attitude is everything. You will get better.
phonics here... 1961
Flesch, Blumenfeld and others deal with this. They arrive at figures around 90%.
Note that inconsistent is not the same thing as non-phonetic. Let’s say an “i” has 5 pronunciations, all clustered around each other. They are all “i” just as 25 shades of blue are still blue.
All the experts say you have to start over. Here’s what that means radically boiled down:
1) Learn to say the alphabet with quick confidence.
2) Memorize the sound represented by each letter, so you can say those quickly.
3) Never ever again guess what a word means. Never ever again try to retrieve from memory what a word means. Those are the hard parts.
4) Make yourself sound out every word. You have the sounds of 100,000 words in your head, give or take. So after a syllable or two or three sounded out, you’ll get the word.
To what degree do you think this is feasible?
That’s a very succinct explanation of exactly what we’ve found and why we’re happy we homeschooled.
My niece who’s in her 30’s now is actually what set us (myself and siblings) on the path to homeschooling.
She was in 2nd grade and couldn’t read. Turns out she was the one who couldn’t learn phonics...so my sister took her to a learning specialist and he recommended home schooling. And since she was going to homeschool one, why not the older one too...and that was the beginning.
Since then we’ve (as in myself and siblings) homeschooled 11 kids, and we’re so happy we did. Many are adults now and have completed college, have jobs, and the ones who have families of their own are homeschooling their kids.
“The authors state: “It is absurdly easy to teach a child to read with the proper method. Most of the children in America could be taught in a few weeks or months at the age of five.”
I was close. 6 weeks to learn reading at 3.5 years old for my oldest. Easiest thing I every did. Once junior knew how to read, getting good at it came from simply liking to read. Math was another story though...lots of hours and several years of hard work to get ready for Calculus. In the end, well worth it and I taught him early enough so that the schools would NEVER get a chance to “unteach” it. They were beat - he could read and he knew his math...nothing they could do about it.
But that all makes sense to me. Reading has been around for 5000 years, Calculus more like 350 years...obviously harder to learn.
Sight reading instruction and fuzzy math — double whammy.
Phonics is definitely the way to go.
I read somewhere though that they are going to stop teaching cursive writing. I can’t imagine generations to come not being able to read/write cursive. They’ve got to at least be able to sign their names, I would think.
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