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To: Red Steel

“If the Supreme Court follows the intent and meaning of the natural born citizen clause as Jay and Madison understood it, and it isn’t the King subject nonsense, they will come to the correct conclusion that Obama illegitimately sits in the White House.”


I don’t believe that any plaintiff in any appeal that has reached the Supreme Court has introduced the writings of Jay and Madison into the debate for the High Court to consider. Every appeal has dealt with whether the lower court’s dismissal for standing was constitutional.

“’imprimatur’? Why be ‘imprimatur’ when you can play ball-less hide and seek by taking an evasive position.”

I think you need to look that word up in a dictionary since you have used it incorrectly in the sentence above. You can’t “be” imprimatur.

“Other musses from the dis-honorable Clay Land: “

Judge Land may be “dishonorable” to you but when birtherbot attorney Orly Taitz tried to get Supreme Court Justice Thomas to stay Judge Land’s imposition of $20,000 in sanctions against her for filing a frivolous lawsuit, Justice Thomas upheld Judge Land. Ms. “birtherbot” Taitz then went to Justice Alito with her application for a stay of sanctions. Justice Alito presented her request to slap down Judge Land to the full court. The full Court rejected her request and she eventually paid the $20,000 fine for wasting Judge Land’s time with nonsense.

“So Jameseeee, did Clay Land see the “proof” in his court that he was at least born in the United States? Or is the clownish judge “believing” that silly Oboma COLB .jpg image on the Internet as genuine? Sure a stupid image is publicly available. How about that COLB image get authenticated against the records in Hawaii to be presented in his court? Land just BS’d everyone here.

Furthermore from “Judge” Land,...”


Judge Land saw enough “evidence” in legal briefs submitted to him from both the plaintiff and from the defense to know a frivolous lawsuit when he saw one and that’s all that matters in the end.
I think that you have forgetten that the defendant in the lawsuit before Judge Clay R. Land was not Barack Hussein Obama II, but Colonel Thomas MacDonald, the Commandant of Fort Benning, Georgia. (Rhodes v MacDonald).

Even the plaintiff in the case herself, Captain Connie Rhodes wrote a letter to Judge Land telling him that Orly the birtherbot had filed an appeal on Captain Rhodes’ behalf that Captain Rhodes did not authorize and the PLAINTIFF told Judge Land that she no longer wished to be rrepresented by Orly Taitz.

Back here on planet Earth and out of birtherbot fantasy la-la land, when a judge’s decisions are upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States and the plaintiff herself writes to the Judge requesting that he ignore the ravings of her former attorney, that’s about as good as it gets for judicial vindication of one’s verdict.
Captain Connie Rhodes’ letter to Judge Clay D. Land:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19905657/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-18-Letter-from-plaintiff-Connie-Rhodes-regarding-withdrawal-of-motion-to-stay-Govuscourtsgamd77605180

Maybe, someday, the birtherbots will actually find a plaintiff who has standing to sue Barack Obama for illegally occupying the Oval Office and carrying the nuclear football and we can have a real trial on the merits with evidence and witnesses and subpoenas and all that good stuff. But that day is not today.
There is one more Obama eligibility appeal on the docket for the Supreme Court: Kerchner v Obama. We will soon know whether there are four justices willing to grant a Petition for a Writ of Certioari in this appeal from the 3rd Circuit which imposed court costs on Kerchner for filing a suit that they also deemed “a frivolous appeal.”


Kerchner v. Obama, 09-4209

In plaintiffs’ suit challenging the legitimacy of President Obama’s citizenship, district court’s dismissal is affirmed where: 1) plaintiffs lack standing; and 2) because the finding of other district courts that plaintiffs who filed complaints based on similar legal theories violated Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11 should have served as a meaningful notice that this appeal would be frivolous, the plaintiffs’ counsel is ordered to show cause why he should not pay just damages and costs for having filed a frivolous appeal.

Appellate Information
Submitted 07/02/2010
Decided 06/29/2010
Published 07/02/2010
Judges
SLOVITER
Court
US 3rd Circuit
Counsel
For Appellant:

Mario Apuzzo, Tony West
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/summary/opinion/us-3rd-circuit/2010/07/02/250371.html


650 posted on 11/15/2010 10:02:41 AM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
I don’t believe that any plaintiff in any appeal that has reached the Supreme Court has introduced the writings of Jay and Madison into the debate for the High Court to consider. Every appeal has dealt with whether the lower court’s dismissal for standing was constitutional.


A silly deflection Obot since it was you who brought up Jay and Madison. Daniel Boone is highly likely not mentioned in any of briefs Obot, but he likely knew that it took citizen parents and born in the country to be a natural born citizen. And you are wrong [again and again] John Jay was cited in Apuzzo's 20,000 word court brief. John Jay is the reason why the US Constitution has the Natural Born Citizenship clause. Before Jay's letter reached the president of the Philadelphia Constitution convention, the Constitutional draft said "born" in the country to qualify to be president, and as we know now that changed to natural born. This should be a slam dunk proof to lying jus soli crowd, but they are delusional.

I think you need to look that word up in a dictionary since you have used it incorrectly in the sentence above. You can’t “be” imprimatur.

Wrong again, I used it correctly. You can think? LoL.

Land - "but a court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.” "

Land did not give his approval or support for Taitz's case; he evaded her charges made against the usurper in his "court."

Judge Land may be “dishonorable” to you but when birtherbot attorney Orly Taitz tried to get Supreme Court Justice Thomas to stay Judge Land’s imposition of $20,000 in sanctions against her for filing a frivolous lawsuit, Justice Thomas upheld Judge Land. Ms. “birtherbot” Taitz then went to Justice Alito with her application for a stay of sanctions.

We see here again that Land was not "imprimatur" to Taitz's case, and Thomas and Alito didn't uphold anything they 'Evaded' the case just as Thomas testified to Cong Jose Serrano during a Cong hearing.


Even the plaintiff in the case herself, Captain Connie Rhodes wrote a letter to Judge Land telling him that Orly the birtherbot had filed an appeal on Captain Rhodes’ behalf that Captain Rhodes did not authorize and the PLAINTIFF told Judge Land that she no longer wished to be rrepresented by Orly Taitz.

Actually, Rhodes didn't write the letter someone else put words in her mouth and wrote it. We never heard from her again.

656 posted on 11/15/2010 11:06:11 AM PST by Red Steel
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