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Dude: "Your lighting ‘expert’ is going to have to explain away the weather satellite pic of the contrail coming from the southwest, then."

J Ape: You are now citing a weather satellite image produced by a NASA scientist who claimed it was the contrail for the AWE808 flight. Not the UPS902 flight. And sat images of contrails will always show the top of the contrail. The satellite is much higher then the contrail.

Thanks, Justa! [^)

As per another of your posts on the news director's next-day take changing it from a missile to an airliner -- how ironic that the "simpler to explain" airplane contrail conclusion requires an explanation infinitely complicated and convoluted, needing all kinds of supporting "evidence" drawn from everywhere but Aunt Gertrude's garden shed. But that's only to be expected for an effort to persuade folks that video taken at sunset of a north-west arcing vertical missile launch and its plume was actually the horizontal condensation trail of an eastbound UPS plane!

Dude, who lives in Arizona, thinks you and I, who live in So Cal (if I remember correctly you're down here somewhere) want to believe it's a missile.

I'll give him this much: I sure as hell want to believe it was one of ours.

So where is your missile plume on the satellite photos? It isn't there. It never was there, because there was no missile. You disregard all evidence and analysis contrary to your position. It has gotten to the point where you have stuck your fingers in your ears and now are yelling 'LALALALALA" at the top of your lungs. So how can anyone take you seriously at this point? Yes, you want to believe its a missile. Because you don't want to be wrong; because you have invested some much time and energy believing its a missile and trying to convince everyone else it is too.

If a boomer had launched a missile from that point, there would have been a massive ASW effort launched to find the offender. If you can show me that occurred, I will believe it was a SLBM. Until then, this Arizonan bids you adieu.