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To: Doulos1
Flight Aware has the flight archived....

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX

This is getting as weird as moon landing conspiracy nonsense.

It's an aircraft contrail.

I'm a private pilot that has flown off and on all over SoCal since the mid eighties, LA airspace and Catalina island included. Suffice it to say I am well versed in observing the weather around here and many actual rocket launches out of Vandenberg. I am also an aerospace nut with eyes skyward at humdrum aicraft when everyone else could care less. I've seen this kind of phenonmenon before.Believe me I know, it can look like a rocket, I too have looked twice at such things before. I'm not in a pissing contest here, it's just overwhelming now it's an aircraft contrail illusion.

60 posted on 11/10/2010 1:14:13 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

This thing is embarrassing me for my country but hitting me harder regarding FR. I thought we were above this tin foil crap. Sure, we joke about it, but I didn’t realize there was so much of it genuinely in existence on this site.

I feel like a liberal that caught the NYT lying for the first time. I threw up a little in my mouth.


68 posted on 11/10/2010 1:17:44 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Not sure where I read it this morning but it was confirmed that particular flight entered the airspace of the video about an hour later.


72 posted on 11/10/2010 1:20:31 PM PST by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Well said, and I don’t have any knowledge of aircraft of any kind. I’m a dumb hillbilly who sees a few contrails every now and then. My only point is that so far the Pentagon says that it didn’t know what it was, but it wasn’t a missile.
My concern here is that our government should know what it was. Somebody in the government should be able to say yes, that was flight so-and-so out of blank.
My real concern is that it was a foreign nation testing our defenses and our resolve. The Chinese are pissed at Obama and the Feds for the QE2 action.
Just a scenario- China slips within 35 miles of mainland US and shoots a rocket back west into the open ocean. This would be a test first to see if they hit their specified coordinates, testing their targeting ability. Second they would be testing our weak President to see his action or inaction. They would not haven’t broken any international laws that I know of since it is in the open ocean. Plus it would be sending a message to Obama that he better watch his step, so to speak. The Chinese are becoming belligerent by the dollar. They know they are dealing with a lackadaisical commander in chief.
This is why I commented on it. I would like for some trustworthy organization to verify that it was just a plane. I can’t trust the media, or the president, so I was hoping that someone like NORAD or the Pentagon would say it was this or that, but instead all I’ve heard was we don’t know for sure, but it wasn’t a missile. Okay, so what flight number was it?


141 posted on 11/10/2010 2:01:32 PM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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