Until then, I would appreciate it if you would not mischaracterize my posting history on this thread as belonging to the Missile Truther Doc, my apologies, I did not intend to portray you as one of the True Missile Believers, and if I did, it was quite unintentional. I know your posting history, and was quite impressed with the intellectual honesty you've displayed, including your apparent "switch" (or at least consideration of the the interview POV).
What I meant was, nobody on the missile-assertion side came close to your credibility, until you arrived, seemingly, on their side.
No offense intended, please.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
My assertion all along has been that a missile would only remain in view for two to three minutes. Here are various large rocket launches:
trident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utTb7AOszac
out of view in two minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TPHQ2GFxMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaCtyfr9veI
titan iv start at 1:00, out of view in 2:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2ULNGBww4&feature=related
titan start at :30 almost out of view in 2 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bvImsY9shE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NXBnLMGfm4&feature=fvw
Unfortunately, all of the ICBM and SLBM video online is less than a minute in length.
Regardless, if the object in the video remained in view for ten minutes, there's just no way it could have been a missile.
So I tried to track down the eye witnesses. Rick Warren has time stamps spanning more than 4 minutes for his photos. So I figured if Gil had seen the object for that amount of time or more, then the case was closed.
But Gil is adamant that the object was only in view for 2 to 3 minutes. That threw a monkey wrench in proving my hypothesis, so in my hypothesis the missile theory is not ruled out regardless of the other hypotheses.
I'm not sure Gil witnessed the subsequent views captured by Rick Warren's photos and overlayed by contrailscience.com:
Gil says what he saw was 11 minutes prior to the views above, according to the time stamps attributed by contrailscience.com to those latter images.
And that's probably the bottom line: Gil might not have witnessed the tiny object in the top of the final images captured by Rick Warren. I don't know if his front mounted camera would have captured them that high:
I still have to specifically ask him about that.
By the way, here's the best video available. The guy at contrailscience.com did a chronological cut and posted it to YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Epoxynous#p/a/u/1/rkZE3GrnnpwThe available footage and photos originally supplied by CBS of the "Mystery Missile" UPS902 contrail, arranged in chronological order.
This is NOT how it was broadcast - the "raw footage" was heavily edited for dramatic effect. You can see where the missile is in relation to the clouds.
Gil Leyvas said that KCBS owns the rights to the video footage, and probably still has the unedited ten minutes of video available on their server.
Judging by the final 30 seconds of this video, I would have to revise my statement above, "
"I'm not sure Gil witnessed the subsequent views captured by Rick Warren's photos and overlayed by contrailscience.com"
Obviously he did see the object at the very top of the last photo images captured by Rick Warren, yet he still maintains the object only remained in view for 2-3 minutes total.