[Pharmboy]

Thought this might interest you folks on the list...

[GeronL]

We won.

We get to name it.

[Pharmboy]

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

[Sparky1776]

I actually think the Revolution was the completion of the English Civil War / Scots Independence.

[the OlLine Rebel]

This man is from MD. Ping?

[the OlLine Rebel]

I like it.

There is no doubt it was a civil war. It was not, after all, 2 separate entities clashing over territory, etc. That alone makes it a civil war; never mind that people here were pro-Brit.

If the insurgents (rebels) win, it’s a revolution. If the insurgents lose, it’s a civil war. :D That’s pretty much all we need to know.

[skepsel]

Look at “The Cousin’s Wars”, author escapes me at present, but he makes the same point across the English Civil wars, the American War of Independence and the US Civil War.

Lots of good info there as well as in “Albion’s Seed, Four British Folkways in North America”.

The first book makes the case for a series of conflicts with roots in the differences related in the second (different authors).

Personally I wouldn’t be surprised at a fourth in the series in our future, many of the differences in world view present in our body really are intractable.

[NonValueAdded]

the Yankee-Pennamite Wars predated this "first" Civil war. There is a very interesting history lesson and I believe there is a fluffenutter involved.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

PING!

[NavyCanDo]

I’m reading the book, The Real George Washington, a fascinating book recommended by Glenn Beck.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-George-Washington-American-Classic/dp/0880800143

When Washington had to flee New York with the British on his heels, he was under orders from Congress not to burn the city as he evacuates. A fire was started somehow anyway, nobody knows by who, but it devoured many of the buildings. Loyalist were so angered that they grabbed Patriots from their homes both male and female and threw them into the flames to burn alive. Others they hung or shot on sight. Just barbaric that this went on among a civilized people.

[Sherman Logan]

Read an excellent novel by Kenneth Roberts on this subject many moons ago.

Oliver Wiswell if I remember correctly. Excellent read. Some very brave Americans fought on the Loyalist side.

I believe the British, through most of the war, had considerably more Americans under arms than were in the Continental Army.

Tarleton, the bogeyman of the war in the South, led troops who were primarily Loyalists.

[jocon307]

I’ll admit this here, although with some hesitation.

I realized how conservative I really am when I was in 4th grade (or thereabouts) and realized I would have been a Tory in the Revolution.

Of course, I did live in NYC, which was deeply Tory if I’m not mistaken.