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Is Precognition Real? Cornell University Lab Releases Powerful New Evidence
H+ ^ | November 4, 2010 | Ben Goertzel

Posted on 11/08/2010 8:33:23 AM PST by The Comedian

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To: I cannot think of a name
I predicted that zero would be the worst president in history before he took office - does that count?

No. That would be like predicting the Transit of Venus or a Solar Eclipse based on published ephemerides. While not obvious to the casual observer or Keith Olbermann, it was completely predictable to anyone who was paying attention.

21 posted on 11/08/2010 9:10:15 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: The Comedian
I like my late night radio discussions late at night when I'm so drowsy they help put me back to sleep. This bilge is just more “east of the Rockies” stuff from Ithaca NY, where the voters just reelected Maurice, the “truther”, Hinchey.
22 posted on 11/08/2010 9:11:25 AM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: The Comedian

In all seriousness , humans are psychic. There is no doubt.

Just what ‘psychic’ means exactly, and all that it does or doesn’t entail is the source of much discussion and argument.

We all have these ‘powers’. BUT, we are taught we do not. If you don’t think you have it, and you don’t try to use it (exercise it), it atrophies.

YOU can tell yourself to wake at a certain time, and without a clock, you will do so. IF YOU PRACTICE.

I can’t count the times I have called a friend, who was just picking up the phone to dial me. And vice versa.

I used to sit in the church choir as a kid, and pick out a person in the pews who was looking down at a hymnal, or whatever, and think “LOOK AT ME”.

It was very slow at first, but after months of practice, I could pick anyone looking down, and they would immediately look up directly at me, with a look of shock on their face.

I don’t think there is anything ‘special’ about me, or the ability to use these powers. I think everyone has the ability.

I cannot, for instance, lift 400 pounds over my head. But, those who practice can.


23 posted on 11/08/2010 9:13:08 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: The Comedian

My Uncle Bob knew the exact day, hour and minute he was going to die. The judge told him.


24 posted on 11/08/2010 9:13:41 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
I get flashes of precognition all the time. Problem is I have no control of it.

Maybe it only happens when it needs to.

25 posted on 11/08/2010 9:17:51 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
How about this for precognition:

I predict zero will be the same arrogant, brainless, POS, bent on destroying America, AFTER the election as he was BEFORE the election.

It's just a feeling, but I bet I'm proven correct!

26 posted on 11/08/2010 9:19:29 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: The Comedian

I took one look at my future mother-in-law and had a Precognative Panic Attack!


27 posted on 11/08/2010 9:22:29 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: I cannot think of a name

How about this for precognition:

I predict that over much of the Northern Hemisphere the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.


28 posted on 11/08/2010 9:26:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: The Comedian
Julian Jaynes in The Origin of Consciousness and the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind theorized that humans heard voices of and saw visual representations of "the gods" (whatever they are) as late as 3,000 years ago AND this gave humans a connection with a dimension that was OUTSIDE our world so imprisoned by time.

He didn't define these "gods" but does give an riveting account of the decline of these phenomena as well as a complete set of proofs as to his conclusions (using ancient literature including the Iliad, Odessey, Epic of Gilgamesh, the Bible, etc.). BTW, he also provides a very careful definition of what human consciousness is and is not...as well as a careful account of the evolution of these phenomena down to the present.

The voices of the gods (God) are still with us (in this theory) in the form of conscience, prayer, visual and auditory hallucinations of schizophrenics and users of psychotropic drugs like DMT (and this discussion adds "precognition" to the list).

This theory explains much of historic precognition and may explain what we today recognize as such.

As an additional point, The Book of Enoch (Pseudepigrapha--The Ethiopian Enoch) adds a backdrop unmentioned by Jaynes which leads one to consider that the gods Jaynes spoke of might be both holy and fallen angels (depending on the nature of the person involved, of course).

29 posted on 11/08/2010 9:29:54 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama to Dems: 'Those GD American voters stole the election!')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“we do not understand one shred of quantum mechanics, we merely observe it and use the observations”

That’s overstating things. Obviously, quantum mechanics has various problems, but it’s still science. People still know things. There are still theories.


30 posted on 11/08/2010 9:30:18 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
My Uncle Bob knew the exact day, hour and minute he was going to die. The judge told him.

I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screeching in terror like his passengers.

31 posted on 11/08/2010 9:30:58 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: UCANSEE2

“It was very slow at first, but after months of practice, I could pick anyone looking down, and they would immediately look up directly at me, with a look of shock on their face.”

I don’t believe you.


32 posted on 11/08/2010 9:32:39 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: The Comedian
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33 posted on 11/08/2010 9:33:51 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: UCANSEE2

“YOU can tell yourself to wake at a certain time, and without a clock, you will do so. IF YOU PRACTICE”

If that’s to be considered “psychic,” then pretty much any time our mind tells our bodies to do something would also be “psychic,” for instance when my brain told my fingers to type this post.


34 posted on 11/08/2010 9:35:43 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: The Comedian
Cornell University Lab Releases Powerful New Evidence that the Human Mind can Perceive the Future

I knew they were going to release this information a month before they did.

35 posted on 11/08/2010 9:38:05 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: null and void
If Clif The Comedian is correct, all hell is about to break loose.

Yup, there's that too. This is one instance when we seem to overlap using nothing in common but the raw data (and I doubt we're even using the same sub-set of that, based on my conversations with Clif).


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

36 posted on 11/08/2010 9:42:38 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: Tublecane
I don’t believe you.

Roger. This kind of thinking is the reason that the double blind clinical study was the greatest medical advance of the 20th Century.

37 posted on 11/08/2010 9:46:54 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’ll definitely be adding that to my repertoire.


38 posted on 11/08/2010 9:53:53 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Tublecane
That’s overstating things. Obviously, quantum mechanics has various problems, but it’s still science. People still know things. There are still theories.

We observe quantum-mechanical behavior and use those observations, but we don't understand them.

"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." --Richard Feynmann

39 posted on 11/08/2010 9:54:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: Tublecane

Try it for a couple months.

It costs you nothing, and will either confirm your beliefs or expand them.


40 posted on 11/08/2010 9:54:45 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 655 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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