Posted on 11/03/2010 6:01:31 AM PDT by C19fan
That's NOT the issue in NV. Republicans nearly ran the table in NV with one major exception. You can't tell me that Harry Reid won that state honestly. That election was stolen. It's as plain as a pig on the couch!
Angle and O’Donnell were great candidates. They were left to twist in the wind by their own party.
Also: Angle was defeated by a “mysterious power outage” - after reboot, Reid went up something like 5%. Hell of a way to run an election.
People who don’t think are still allowed to vote. We assume that everyone voting has dissected and analyzed representatives as throughly as Freepers have done.
I have a mix of feelings myself, but I’ll take what he have gained.
It is most definitely an issue! Much more work needs to be done.
I also think there should be a thorough investigation of the voting process there. Although I also suspect voter fraud....concrete evidence is needed.
Really! Some people are just Eeyores! My liberal FB friends are depressed and saying things like, “Now that the Republicans are *in charge* things will be fixed in two years, RIGHT?” I have to remind them that they are not exactly in charge. LOL but it means they are demoralized and they realized we beat their pants off and more importantly we told Obama and Pelosi and even Reid a big fat NO.
Agree. I think both Marco Rubio and Rand Paul are two rising stars in the conservative wing of the GOP.
This morning presents a big turnaround in policy for Obama. He will now move from blame Bush to blame congress.
“The GOP should have won the Nevada Senate seat. Even with someone like Sharron came close to ousting Old Harry.”
Unfortunately, I don’t know if that’s actually true. According to one analyst on FOX (don’t remember his name, but he was reporting from Nevada), though Angle’s 45% appears to be fairly close to Reid’s 50%, she actually did not get many votes from solid GOP districts in Nevada.
A similar thing happened to O’Donnell. In a sense, she was defeated by the GOP in Delaware, who simply did not come out to vote for her.
Right on.
And...how about Rubio’s? To the GOP he said, “you have a second chance, not just an embrace” or something to that effect. He definitely didn’t let the GOP off the hook!
All in all...not a bad night.
One other point: where we had decent, disciplined, professional Tea Party backed candidates, they did well. Where we had sort of undisciplined and unprofessional sort of wild Tea Party backed candidates, they failed. We need more Rubios and Pauls. And...fewer Angles and O’Donnells.
NOW...that said...I am STILL glad that Angle and O’Donnell won their primaries. I think it is important to fire back at the Mike Castles of the world. It’s just that when we have such an opportunity, it’d be better to do so with the Rubios of the world, rather than the O’Donnells. (She played a role in our overall effort, for sure, and for that we should be grateful).
I heard Joe Trippe on FOX last night. He kind of hated to say that Obozo might have been better off if the GOP took the Senate.
Now Obozo won’t be able to blame the GOP House and Senate for all his woes. Obozo would have loved to use that in 2012.
He still will, but it won’t be as easy.
“So, half the country is lost. We are the UnUnited States, for sure, and I can’t see what we can do about it”
No, “half the country” is NOT “lost”. They know EXACTLY what they want, and their voting reflects this.
You are completely right in your second sentence, though. But why do you hedge as to what the possible long-term solution could or might be?
What did the once-monolithic Soviet Union “do about it”?
“Can’t happen here”, many will say.
That’s what they said about _there_, too.
Christie O’Donnell was a novice, not a disaster. And by winning the nomination, she humiliated the Republican “kingmaker” Karl Rove, who should have been a gentleman and ignored it, but instead decided to show conservatives what a pragmatist with dubious loyalty looks like.
I guess we all foolishly hoped that Rove was different than traitor David Gergen, ex-Bill Clinton advisor Dick “The Toesucker” Morris, or James “The Red Skull” Carville. Mercenaries all.
Yet, in sneering at her, and belittling her, cursing her, Rove has effectively ended his career as a political consultant for any conservative. Certainly he can still caucus with the RINOs, while he hungrily tries to ingratiate himself with Democrats that want to appear in some way “moderate”.
But any conservative who touches him in future should have fair warning that doing so will be seen by other conservatives as a lack of character, demonstrating more ambition than principles.
"So what if (candidate) has a dodgy background?? (Candidate) is as well qualified as Obama, and he's President!!"
Conservatives who are clearly serious thinkers and who have a serious resume, with no major baggage, WON.
Conservatives who did not clear those bars, LOST.
The LSM is always going to give conservatives those higher bars to clear. We need to accept that fact and work with it.
Like you, I find this scary. Here is ‘conservative’ Arizona, Jesse Kelly lost the race to Pelosi buttgirl Gabby Giffords. The problem was that Kelly was a bit too conservative for the district. Outside Tucson, he did well - but east Tucson was more afraid of him than of Giffords.
Meanwhile, Vail AZ just narrowly (about 4%) refused to vote for another tax increase for the schools, although it voted for one just last May. So on a night when Republicans were winning big, Vail just barely turned back the second tax increase in 6 months.
Conservatives who were expecting to cruise to victory on anti-Obama need to realize the unions and tax-recipients hate and fear us as much as we despise Obama - and in a lot of localities, they outnumber us. This was one small step towards where we need to be. A good step in many places, but I retired to Southern Arizona in the belief it was a conservative place, not San Francisco AZ.
But the reality is that the country is NOT conservative. Some places are, but the libs OWN the cities, and that is where most of the votes are.
To make myself feel better, I keep in mind that when we lost WV to Manchin, we were not going to win the Senate this time.
Reid probably had to cheat to beat Angle....but at this time, he won. I feel a little better because Chucky Schumer would have replaced him. Hairy is really bad, but Schumer is a loud mouth mega creep.
We kicked butt on governor races and won the House. A lot of State legislatures went pubbie too.
Quite respectable evening when you think about it.
Think the Carpenters, “We Have Only Just Begun”
Calif,one lost state,and the idiots that voted this mess are deliriously happy,or just delirious.They voted Jerry Brown in for the 3rd time.I want to cry.
We had a good night in the senate, it just seems a little lackluster compared to the tremendous night in the house, governorships and state legislatures.
It’s like winning by 30 points and complaining because the point spread was set at 35.
Putting things in perspective:
(1) In 2012, 21 Dems (and +2 Lefty Independents) are running for re-election, only 10 Reps.
(2) In 2014, 20 Dems are running for re-election; only 13 Reps.
That means are odds for Senate takeover are quite high. That we picked up seats when we should have (2004) lost, shows how impressive this Senate win surely is.
PoC
>>many voters simply voted the RNC straight ticket, thinking (in error) that they were also voting for O’Donnel.<<
Are you saying that O’Donnell wasn’t listed as the R on the ballot?
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