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I Was At Berger-Belsen This Week
Vanity | 10/30/2010 | RB

Posted on 10/30/2010 4:51:41 PM PDT by Free America52

I was in Hamburg Germany this week for business, and had the fortune (?) of visiting the memorial at Berger-Belsen, one of the most notorious Nazi concentration camps. By the time the camp was liberated by British troops on April 15, 1945, there were 12,000-13,000 Jews dying every day from starvation and disease.

It is one of the most notorious of all Nazi concentration camps for several reasons:

1) Anne Frank and her sister Margot died in this camp.

2) As the allied forces pushed their way into Germany, Hitler had prisoners from camps in the encroachment areas moved to other prisons. Berger-Belsen received many of these prisoners and severely overloaded an already overloaded camp. Deaths became staggerlingly high.

Here are two historical clips that will make your hair stand up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzdtPcNwRtM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUxSxQlwR6s&feature=related

Several things really stuck out to me:

1) In a very eerie way, the Berger-Belsen grounds were very quiet. There were no birds, no animals, no insects or any sort of non-plant life although the prison was surrounded by thousands of acres of forest. According to local lore, no living thing exists.

2) This was not a re-enactment with buildings, etc., this was just a solemn walk through a beautiful place where some very horrible things happened. The area is simply breathtakingly beautiful.

3) They have a fabulous museum on site that tells the whole story. I could spend 1-2 days just in the museum.

I am 54 years old, and this was the most emotional experience in my life (outside of life / death issues). I will forever be touched, and plan to make a German vacation visiting more of these camps.

It is impossible to describe ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: bergerbelsen; nazi
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To: Talisker

Aren’t you a delightful person? Happy Halloween.


21 posted on 10/30/2010 5:22:44 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Tuxedo

Agree,
The death camps of Eastern Europe have the stench of Hell pervading them. The crimes of the Einsatzgruppen and of the killing camps are a grave stain upon humanity. Move your boot through the bone fragments about Treblinka and you will begin to understand.


22 posted on 10/30/2010 5:23:06 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Free America52

I lived & worked in Hamburg 1979-84. Also visited Bergen Belsen by myself and once with my parents when they visited me.

My dad was with Army Air Force out of England and was flying in and out of Bergen Belsen carrying out the survivors. He remembers carry two emaciated men - one on each shoulder.

Yes, the place is eerily quiet...hard to describe until one experiences it.

My dad actually sobbed at the memory.

Seeing the piles - Hier legen funf tausand toten - Here lay 5,000 dead - there were many piles.

No bird, squirrels nothing....all of a sudden from above at treetop level, two jets came in for landing breaking the silence.

I visited the archives/museum and read the notes/records in German and it was like I was back in my office in Hamburg.

They even used the same file binders back then...the ones with the hole in the front.

It was an unforgettable experience especially as I was able to read the German archives.


23 posted on 10/30/2010 5:24:00 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (0cents.com - Are you sick of Obama - visit this site!)
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To: Free America52

Bergen-Belsen is where Anne Frank died. That young girl had intelligence and grit, and I’m sorry we in the rest of the world never got to know her better.


24 posted on 10/30/2010 5:24:09 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Free America52

Thanks for sharing your trip and thoughts. Sobering.


25 posted on 10/30/2010 5:25:32 PM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art until it is a technical failure)
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To: Free America52
You sure you were there?

Most people call it "Bergen-Belsen"

That's what the signs around there say.

26 posted on 10/30/2010 5:26:00 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes. Most people cannot name the nazi concentration camps. They have forgotten the death camps. They think it’s a “Jew” thing. They are wrong. Humanity is teetering on the brink of much worse and refuses to see it.
A “Jew” trying to explain the horrors is often mocked. We are called whiners ahd told to get over it. I have seen that right here from people on threads that have turned my stomach and it has been everything I could do to stop and leave the thread without posting because I would surely be banned.


27 posted on 10/30/2010 5:26:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (VOTE!)
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To: Free America52

Elie Wiesel’s “Night” is short but one of the most horrific books about the camps IMHO.

My father was involved with the liberation of Belsen. The actual number of those admitted into the camp as part of the relief effort was severely limited due to all sorts of strange bugs, several soldiers caught mystery diseases and were very sick or died.


28 posted on 10/30/2010 5:26:48 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Free America52; All
I'm sure you are ALL sincere and your memories of these harsh places are heartfelt & genuine.

...as they should be.

My husband has been to Dachau.....unspeakable.

But have you ever considered how these horrors compare to our own American Holocaust?.

...WE...our United States ..

..have systematically mutilated and killed over 50 million babies..

...we've burned them.... torn them from limb to limb..... and discarded them in furnaces and garbage pits.

WE have as much blood guilt as Germany....and the rest.

29 posted on 10/30/2010 5:37:16 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: 1066AD

The best book I have ever read about that evil is by Gitta Sereny entitled Into That Darkness. It profoundly affected me. Another powerful book, which was written by a survivor, is entitled Hope is the Last to Die by Halina Birenbaum. Never Forget


30 posted on 10/30/2010 5:46:04 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Talisker
Fill any useless eaters with morphine lately?

Wow. I don't prescribe medicine.

31 posted on 10/30/2010 5:47:20 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: MestaMachine; Candor7; freekitty; justiceseeker93; unkus

The Imam and his evil Regime including his Kapos like Soros and this Congress shoved their DeathCare down the throats of the American people. They want to pick and choose who lives and who dies. Anyone pretending that the DeathCare bill is not another genocide is a useful idiot.

This time, Jews won’t go alone; most of America is on their list.


32 posted on 10/30/2010 5:49:58 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: righttackle44

Anyone who watches “Anne Frank : The Whole Story” and doesn’t come out of it weeping like a baby, isn’t human.


33 posted on 10/30/2010 5:51:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -You Gotta Believe)
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To: Gapplega

The very recent biography about Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Metaxas is also moving.


34 posted on 10/30/2010 5:52:53 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Gapplega

The very recent biography about Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Metaxas is also moving.


35 posted on 10/30/2010 5:53:13 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Free America52

Berger Belsen?
Finally a new novel by that “Little Big Man” guy?


36 posted on 10/30/2010 5:54:43 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: dfwgator; All
Does no one on this thread even care what we've done to our own babies?..

...to 50 million potential citizens of the USA?

Does no one see ????

No one.

37 posted on 10/30/2010 5:55:02 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Guenevere

Planned Parenthood IS definitely America’s Auschwitz.

I recommend the documentaries “Maafa21” and “Blood Money” and also “The Truth Behind Abortion” (Will Ford). Definitely every youth should see these movies. There would definitely be an uptick of pro-life believers afterwards.


38 posted on 10/30/2010 5:56:38 PM PDT by Inclines to the Right (www.maafa21.com)
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To: Free America52

Geddy Lee of the band Rush...his parents were in that camp. Rush did a song called Red Sector A in tribute to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQ-J0x4SZY


39 posted on 10/30/2010 5:59:31 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Free America52

I think I know how you feel, I had the same experience at the Ann Frank House in Amsterdam. Joseph Heller, Kurt Vonnegut and all the other cynics didn’t have the last word. There really is evil in the world and America really is a force for good.

I remember as a small boy growing up in Queens the couple who ran the local deli had numbers tattoed on their arms. I asked my mother why and when she very matter factly explained I was overcome with horror and revulsion. That may have been the incident that has made me a life long reflexive anti-antisemite.


40 posted on 10/30/2010 6:00:59 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If not Boston, then Texas. Go Rangers!)
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