Seeking Proof in Near-Death Claims (18 Hospitals to study mystery of near-death experiences)

Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/26/2010

[Secret Agent Man]

With Obamacare I am sure they will have a lot more of these to study.

Wonder if they will get a bonus if they ‘help’ them to an actual death?

[SeekAndFind]

Dead or Alive?

An analysis of 613 near-death experiences gathered by the Near Death Research Foundation found:

* About 75% included an out-of-body experience
* 76% reported intense positive emotions
* 34% described passing through a tunnel
* 65% described encountering a bright light
* 22% had a life review
* 57% encountered deceased relatives or other beings

Note: Patients could report more than one sensation.

[Revolting cat!]

I know one who swears he had it during a brain surgery. Floated above the operating table and watched himself being butchered, he says.

It’s unrelated (I think), but dude also believes in the Conspiratorial Theiry of History of the World, you know, the Masons, the Bilderburgers, and such.

[BCR #226]

Actually, probably a lot less. Why revive someone... after all, letting them go is the “green” thing to do.

[Lumper20]

Perhaps a lot less as they will let you die.

[Lumper20]

Perhaps a lot less as they will let you die.

[Psalm 144]

“Actually, probably a lot less. Why revive someone... after all, letting them go is the “green” thing to do.”

Funny how much of the “green” agenda is a fade to black, isn’t it?

[The Comedian]

The body is a Thermos.

Is someone surprised that when you open it up, its delicious contents are released?

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Floated above the operating table and watched himself being butchered, he says.

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I am actually more impressed by a very accurate out-of-the-body experience of a man who was able to describe in great detail WHAT HAPPENED AT HOME (e.g., what his kids were doing at that time) after he “died” in the hospital.

That would be difficult to explain using purely material/physiological explanations.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

This sounds very interesting. I went into cardiac arrest last year and didn’t see or hear a thing for 6 days (my wife says I responded to her voice or her rubbing my hand).

I don’t recall anything from trying to leave my office (Tuesday) until I woke up the following Monday, after having cardiac arrest, an Arctic Sun coma where my body temperature was lowered for two days to prevent my brain from frying; another medically induced coma to help me stablize the whole body; pneumonia (comes with the territory), and brain seizures.

Woke up, looking at the ceiling, and said to myself, “Oh shit, what happened”. Then I saw TV and watched it (Fox Cable, of course), saw my work supervisor laughing and clapping, and them felt my wife holding my hand. I looked at her and thought,”Darn, she looks like she’s had a bad time” (she did).

Then I began to speak a little thru my breathing mask, and after another stent and defibrilator, I walked out of the hospital on my own, 16 days later. Says something about the wonderful state of American medicine. Obama, leave it alone.

I wish I had had an out-of-body experience. It would have been cool, but I’m just an average guy.

Now my friend, a retired NYPD officer, was being beaten to death by a bunch of drug dealers he was trying to arrest, and he saw the lights, angels and his whole family. He resisted going to the light, regained his physical composure, and beat the hell out of the drug-dealers. Lesson learned: Never fuck with a NY Irish cop.

Astral projection, if proven during a near-death or actual death experience, would open up a whole new world of study. I’m looking forward to it, but not as a volunteer anymore. Being clinically dead once is enough.

Happy viewing, folks, and I hope you all live to tell about it.

[MattinNJ]

No conspiracy buff here. I "died" when I was eight from an asthma attack at home. My uncle was a doctor-radiologist of all things-but he revived me. I floated above and could see myself and hear my grandmother's anguished wailings that haunt me to this day-"My God. He's white as a ghost DO SOMETHING". I remember it crystal clear.

Maybe it was the loss of oxygen, maybe not...but I know what I went through.

[Windflier]

I’ve had quite a few out-of-body experiences, though I’ve never been close to death. Mine all happened during times of plain old relaxation.

On one memorable occasion, I slipped out of the body while staring at the ceiling in the middle of the day. I wasn’t asleep, or even drowsy. I found myself about two inches from the ceiling. I turned my attention to the window, and then found myself outside the house about two stories off the ground.

My perceptions at this time seemed to be ultra sharp. I’d never seen so clearly, or heard things in such fine detail. It’s difficult to describe, if you’ve never experienced it.

Unfortunately, I looked through the window and saw my body lying on the bed, and instantly snapped back into my head.

The greatest effect this experience had on me, was the realization that I’m not a flesh and bone body, but a spiritual being, entirely separate from the physical universe.

[Aria]

I’ve had sometime similar to yours...I’m sure I wouldn’t have died - I was 18 and in perfect health - just suffering anxiety that night for some reason. I went and laid on the living room couch and suddenly felt as though I rose out of myself and had the sensation that I could travel ....sort of flying...definitely felt that I had left myself on the couch...but quickly thought of my parents and sisters and didn’t want to go anywhere. I figured I had to get back to myself and decided moving would work. I jumped up and it was over.

Never happened again.

[NonValueAdded]

Flatliners

[Islander7]

Well, I would suggest they paste electrodes on Chrissy Matthews, Kieth Olberman and that Maddow dude. Come Nov 3, they will be having a NDE on live TV.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Matthews, Olbermann and Maddow have been brain dead for years, only they don’t know it or refuse to acknowledge it.

Otherwise, how do you think they got their jobs as MSNBC?

[Grammy]

I know 3 people who have had near death experiences. My dad did during cardiac surgery. He told me he was floating above the table and watched the whole surgery. He wouldn’t talk about it.

The next one I learned of was a very dear friend who was in a coma for several weeks after a diabetic episode. He said he walked around as a “being of light” while he was out of his body.

The third one was from a little girl. There was a fire in her home and as a 2 year old she couldn’t get out. She was dead from smoke inhalation when they brought her out of the house, but the firefighters wouldn’t give up and brought her back. Little kids that age don’t have a lot of words to use yet, but over the next several years she told her parents how Jesus met her and sat with her and gave her cheerios (her favorite thing in the world at the time). Then he told her she needed to go back to her parents.

[Vicki]

My mother had a surgery (very bad one) and she said she came out of her body and floated above watching the procedure.

[ottbmare]

I believe strongly in an afterlife, in encountering Christ after our physical death, and in the likelihood that some people have had out-of-body experiences. But I’ll bet some of the events that took place were not supernatural experiences but were due to inadequate anesthesia.

When I had surgery several years ago I didn’t have an out-of-body experience, but I clearly heard the surgeon and assistant surgeon joshing during my procedure. Later, when I repeated their conversation, my surgeon was very embarrassed. It’s clear that one can be paralyzed and anesthetized but still hear. That could explain a few of these reports (though certainly not all!)