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Meet me at the intersection of "Good Intensions Rd" and "Unintended Consequences Blvd".
1 posted on 10/24/2010 7:31:41 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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I presume that everyone, not just CA, would need some sort of separate meter so that federal, state and local highway (etc) fuel taxes can be applied to charging the vehicle.


2 posted on 10/24/2010 7:35:45 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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Government Mandates Blvd is somewhere in there as well...


3 posted on 10/24/2010 7:37:23 AM PDT by bcsco (Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
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Punching through three neighbor's walls? No problemo. It's for the good of the planet. The government should just do it and charge them for it.
6 posted on 10/24/2010 7:41:23 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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Since Sexton uses a “stunningly low” amount of electricity, she’s on the lowest tier. But the addition of the Volt would push her into a higher bracket, making it likely that EV charging “would be more expensive than putting gas in my Saturn.”

Heh. Maybe this will teach liberals that electricity actually doesn't come out of magic holes in the wall, that there is a real cost to generating and distributing it.

7 posted on 10/24/2010 7:41:33 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Meet me at the intersection of "Good Intensions Rd" and "Unintended Consequences Blvd".

Thats as easy to overcome as any other concern.

A BIG FAT tax on electricity usage to cover the costs of government installing "free" meters for ALL electric car users.

Oh, and another bureaucracy to regulate it.

8 posted on 10/24/2010 7:43:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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That made me smile, big time!


9 posted on 10/24/2010 7:44:29 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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...and that meant running a one-inch thick metal conduit...

I can't stand sloppy reporting. There is no such thing. I'm guessing they meant "one inch diameter" conduit. (Which is actually 1.315" if they require rigid. )

10 posted on 10/24/2010 7:45:22 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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Wow...cool.

Where can I get me one of these Skittle-poopin' unicorns?

12 posted on 10/24/2010 7:49:46 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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About 1/2 of he electric power in the US comes from coal, so an electric powered car runs on coal.


13 posted on 10/24/2010 7:49:51 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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Oregon, Washington and California are all using “stimulus money” to install EV charging stations up and down the I-5 corridor right now. The one item that has not even been mentioned is how much electricity it will take for a quick charge, and who pays for it, and how much it will really cost.

This is just damned-foolishness at it’s very worst, and the group hysteria about these cars is coming to a screeching halt as reality intrudes on the group-think on electric cars.


14 posted on 10/24/2010 7:50:13 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Self Defence is always appropriate.)
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OK, so I’m still behind on my day’s coffee, but let me see if I understand this correctly.

The eco-Nazis/eco-commies complain about fat, stupid, lazy, Gaia-killing Americans leaving their cellphone chargers plugged in overnight, because that is an obscenely gross drain off the electric grid.

But leaving a VEHICLE charger plugged in overnight to propel a ton of material for 40 miles...that’s just fine because it isn’t burning any fossil fuels? Oh wait, what is creating that electricity, diesel-powered generators? Guess it depends upon the area and the source of the electricity that enables the tyrants to approve of this.


15 posted on 10/24/2010 7:50:27 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Finally someone is taking notice that the electricity bill will go up. No mention of how high up it will go.


19 posted on 10/24/2010 7:57:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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It was pretty stupid to make an electric car where the charger is separate equipment that requires most people to run new wiring.

Are they expecting California to buy their equipment to build charging stations around the state for the car?

It’s one thing to require a 230-volt 50-amp outlet (I’m guessing that’s what they are usiny, although they could use 30-amp I guess). That’s not all that weird, there are home appliances using those plugs now, and you can do it yourself or get your own electrician to run the wiring.

But by separating the charger, and then having the charger somehow built-in to the house, it means you can’t even through the charger in the trunk and carry it with you on vacation, much less charge your car anywhere but home.

I presume this was both a cost-savings measure, and a weight reduction effort.

But once again it proves why standard hybrid non-charging technology was the smartest move for companies looking to do gas/electric.

Although I’m betting this means a LOT of Volt customers are NEVER going to use their car as electrics, and it just becomes a very expensive and less-efficient hybrid car.


22 posted on 10/24/2010 8:09:27 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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“We will build NO car BEFORE it’s time!” Winston Chruchill


24 posted on 10/24/2010 8:10:15 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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On the other hand, they are spawning a new industry of really ugly parking space umbrellas:

Solar Chevy Volt Charger


25 posted on 10/24/2010 8:12:34 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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"Meet me at the intersection of "Good Intentions Rd" and "Unintended Consequences Blvd".


26 posted on 10/24/2010 8:13:27 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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OK, now I have a correction. This article is kind of misleading.

“The 240-v charger is optional as the Volt can be recharged using the standard 120-v wall socket charger that comes with the car. This would take about ten hours.”

So we are talking about a special charger for people in a hurry. The car CAN just be plugged in anywhere. I apologized for the errors earlier. But I don’t understand why one of their essentially sales-people didn’t make this more clear.

I also don’t understand why if they were going to include a charger in the car, they didn’t spend an extra hundred bucks and make it capable of doing both 120/240.

And I wonder now if this means the volt has two plugs, one for the 120 regular charger and a separate socket for this 240-volt charger.


33 posted on 10/24/2010 8:27:17 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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On the other hand, it turns out you and I and every other taxpayer are paying half of the cost of this charger:

“Volt and Leaf buyers who also buy a charging station are eligible for a 50 percent tax credit on up to $2,000 for installation.”

I can’t believe how much us taxpayers are paying to provide electric cars to these people.


36 posted on 10/24/2010 8:30:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Chevy Volt; Obama; politics; satire
37 posted on 10/24/2010 8:35:16 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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I am convinced that none of the relevant parties, including car companies, utilities, state and local officials, have fully thought through the installation of charging infrastructure, including contingency plans for problems like Sexton’s. I’ve become frustrated by the vagueness emanating from parties issuing assurances that all will go smoothly. Frankly, it won’t.

California would be best served using it's electricity for executions rather than automobiles.

39 posted on 10/24/2010 8:40:08 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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