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[Minn]

Java development kits such as Eclipse and IntelliJ and NetBeans won't themselves run without Java.

Which is why you can relieve yourself, have a sandwich, and discuss last weekend's game with coworkers while waiting for any of them to start up.

[Terpfen]

Java development kits such as Eclipse and IntelliJ and NetBeans won't themselves run without Java.

Erm… yeah. Sort of captain obvious there. But so what? Either Sun will supply an OS X version of their JVM as they do with seemingly every other OS on the planet, or developers will just have to switch platforms.

Given how few apps use Java, it’s really not a big loss. The present and future of OS X app development is Objective-C, Cocoa, and Xcode.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

"If Steve Jobs is killing Java on the Mac – as seems likely"

Nothing of the sort. Apple just wants Oracle to shoulder the burden of its own programming environment, as it does for other platforms. Two other points, unmentioned: (1) Oracle is lawyering-up and subjecting the community to closer scrutiny (just ask Google). (2) Jobs and Larry Ellison are close friends. There is every reason to expect that their companies will be working more closely together, not less.

All will be well, and the out-of-dateness that has afflicted Apple's java will be a thing of the past.

[SunkenCiv]

Here's what Jobs actually said:

• Steve Jobs Comments on Apple's Java Discontinuation -- Sun (now Oracle) supplies Java for all other platforms. They have their own release schedules, which are almost always different than ours, so the Java we ship is always a version behind. This may not be the best way to do it.

Here's some more of Cade Metz' work for The Register:

• Scandinavian press freedom plan thwarted -- Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been denied in his bid for a Swedish residency permit, part of the Australian's effort to gain protection for the whistleblower site under Sweden's press freedom laws. On August 18, Assange applied to live and work in Sweden, where Wikileaks maintains some of its servers, and on Monday, his application was denied by Sweden's migration board, according to the AP. He has three weeks to appeal. Wikileaks is applying for a Swedish publishing certificate that would protect the site under the country's press freedom laws. If Assange can't obtain a residency permit, someone else would have to serve as the site's official publisher in the country. The Swedish immigration authority declined to provide a reason for the denial of Assange's application, saying the reason is confidential. It's unclear whether the decision is related to ongoing investigations into allegations of sexual misconduct against Assange... At the time, Assange suggested that the investigations were the result of a "smear campaign" related to the ongoing controversy over Wikileaks. "As I have said before, there was clearly a smear campaign, and who was behind this, we do not know," he said. "Now, whether that turns out to be a smear campaign done by a couple of people for personal motives or ideological motives, or that is larger and involves geopolitical concerns, or whether it is a mixture of all those, we do not know."

[RegulatorCountry]

A lot of, if not all of the very early uproar about iPad came from Flash developers whose ox was being gored by Apple giving up on Flash due to Adobe’s inability to accomodate the multi-touch interface. So, they were ditched in favor of HTML5.

Another ox is being gored. Is Apple obligated to support Java at all? No, they’re not. I trust Steve Jobs’ vision for the platform far more than I trust developers squealling out of monetary self-interest.

[antiRepublicrat]

I think I’ve ever liked at most a couple Java client apps. All the rest sucked, badly.