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Laptop Help Needed -- The Sequel
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Posted on 10/21/2010 8:48:26 AM PDT by Keltik

Here's an update for all those who were fascinated yesterday by the story of how my laptop crashed and my frantically desperate attempts to revive it -- you can read the whole sordid story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2610874/posts

With Windows not rebooting, System Repair's refusal to repair the system, futile stabs at reaching system restore or re-imaging (even through command prompt), I finally was able to reach the BIOS panel and set my PC to start on CD first. I was mostly unprepared for a crash, but thank goodness I had at least burned Recovery DVDs. I loaded them and was able to reinstall Windows.

I lost all my data. Fortunately I had saved about 50 gigs of music to a PHD about a week ago. I still lost 5-10 GBs of music, some non-family pics, a few non-vital documents, and all my bookmarks.

Considering some posters yesterday were telling me I would have to send the PC to the shop and it might even be unrepairable anyway, I guess I got off lucky.

So let this be a lesson to you -- BE PREPARED. Burn your recovery disks. I'm off to DL some system restore points and figure out what re-imaging is.

To everybody who offered help, thanks.


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1 posted on 10/21/2010 8:48:27 AM PDT by Keltik
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To: Keltik
If you could boot from a CD you could have used Puppy Linux to access your files and transfer them to flash drives. Just something to consider for the future. Wish I had seen your thread from yesterday, yesterday.
2 posted on 10/21/2010 8:51:40 AM PDT by library user
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3 posted on 10/21/2010 8:51:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Keltik

We have been told since the first hard drive crash on the PC in the early 80s to do regular backups, have an emergency reboot disk...but very few people bother.


4 posted on 10/21/2010 8:52:51 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale

That’s no way to live on the edge, man. :O)


5 posted on 10/21/2010 8:54:57 AM PDT by library user
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To: Keltik

I don’t know if I would trust that hard drive anymore. Might want to consider putting in a new one.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 8:57:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Keltik

I just looked at your thread from yesterday and recently fixed a PC that had the same exact problem. Used Puppy Linux to get all her “important” files, i.e., documents, movies, etc. off the hard drive before I reinstalled Windows. Shame nobody mentioned Puppy Linux yesterday. You burn it to a CD-R and then boot from the CD and when it loads you’ll see your directory structure and you can just drag and drop what you need to your flash drive.


7 posted on 10/21/2010 8:57:34 AM PDT by library user
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To: DManA

Odds are some drivers and likely files associated with them were corrupt. In that case reinstalling Windows and the drivers should do the trick.


8 posted on 10/21/2010 8:59:05 AM PDT by library user
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To: library user

I have a bunch of blank CD’s but I have no clue how to make a live disc of Linux


9 posted on 10/21/2010 9:00:36 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Keltik
HP seems to do better than that. There is a switch for reloading the software to only load the Boot Sector. After a dozen tries to reload software this finally got it going again. I use four free anti virus protection, one running in the background and I use another program to scan for virus when I have problems. Microsoft MRT and Defender are also ready to go. I had an attack form 7 Trojans a while ago and got them out in a couple hours with three simultaneous scans.
10 posted on 10/21/2010 9:02:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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Do you know how to burn an iso image?


11 posted on 10/21/2010 9:04:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: library user

I know! I have always taken extra precautions. One thing that I found...You cannot even depend on some of the “rescue” disks. Once I found a good backup system that worked, I have stuck with it. No more “experimenting”. I use Acronis exclusively now.


12 posted on 10/21/2010 9:05:34 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale
I use Acronis exclusively now.

I use rsync to an external USB HDD. Rather cost effective.

13 posted on 10/21/2010 9:07:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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What is an iso image?

lol


14 posted on 10/21/2010 9:10:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Keltik
Clonezilla, it's free and it works.
15 posted on 10/21/2010 9:13:45 AM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: Keltik

You might be able to get a copy of an .iso of something called “Hirens Boot CD” online, then use a CD/DVD utility to burn the .iso image to a DVD-R blank. Set your laptop to boot from CD and pop it in. The newer versions (v11.xx) are collections of freeware, but older ones included copies of commercial utilities as well. Very helpful in recovering data from damaged hard drives.


16 posted on 10/21/2010 9:14:14 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Keltik

Always keep an external hard drive handy. Copy all files you want to save to it and also run back up software and make sure the backup goes to the external drive. I don’t know if Win7 has it or not but you can also use the recovery console to restore the boot capability of an XP machine, IF you have the regular XP installation disk and not a recovery disk. The absolutely best way to restore everything is to get an imaging program, such as Ghost, and make an image of your machine about once a month, put the image on an external drive or onto a DVD. This allows you to restore the system to exactly what you had on it before.


17 posted on 10/21/2010 9:22:01 AM PDT by calex59
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To: ShadowAce

How many people use a external hard drive? I have a firewire drive for my iMac just “in case”. of course even they are fallible as I found out when the power supply died...


18 posted on 10/21/2010 9:22:17 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: GeronL
OK, first check your CD burning software. It should have an option somewhere (under "tools" perhaps?) to burn a CD/DVD image. That would be the iso image file you will download.

Once you've verified that you have the ability to burn iso images, go to either Pendrive Linux or The LiveCD List and choose the distribution ("distro" in Linux lingo) that sounds like a good fit for you.

If you have no idea, I'd recommend several options--Knoppix, Puppy, Ubuntu, or Fedora.

I personally use Fedora, but I think most people think it's not good for new people. It's hard for me to tell because I've been using it for 7 years now, and Linux in general since 1993.

Anyway, Once you've downloaded the Live CD version of the distro you decided on, save it to disk , then use your CD burning software to burn that image. That should be it.

19 posted on 10/21/2010 9:24:56 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Whichever one will let me play Scorched 3-D, which does not have a Windows Vista version, last I checked.

:p


20 posted on 10/21/2010 9:28:52 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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