Besides the knuckler, they also didnt look at a good split finger fastball. Those thing drop right off the table up at the plate.
"The split-finger fastball is just a legal spitter . . . Suppose I had my middle finger cut off? I bet you I'd have had one hell of a split-finger fastball."---George Bamberger, former pitching coach and manager, whose own best pitch when he was a minor league pitcher was a spitter he called his Staten Island sinker.
Ha ha, nice.
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