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To: Lazlo in PA
In Leggs McNeils' "Please Kill Me - An Oral History of Punk", it is openly stated that punk began (at least in NYC but also as a subculture in other cities) as a response AGAINST liberal hippie political correctness. The same damn "you can't do this, you can't do that" with regards to eating, consumption of consumer products, smoking, feminism, etc etc irked them.

The MC5 were "considered" to be left wing radicals because of their manager (John Sinclair) and because they'd played the 1968 Democrat Convention in Chicago (when the crowd had been promised The Beatles or The Rolling Stones). REAL left wingers called them out as not being fellow travelers and almost killed them at one New York gig. This too is addressed in the above book (begins with accounts of the VU, Stooges, MC5... then moves into NY Dolls, Dictators, et all which are years before The Ramones).

The revisionist take is that Johnny was a Republican (or a fascist if you are to accept the red diaper revisionist take) and that all of the rest were die hard liberals. Except Johnny was able to convince Joey to vote for Reagan in 1984 (which is one reason that Joey was upset by Reagan going to the SS cemetery).

Liberals are sold a socialist Utopian lie that is just as false as being promised 72 virgins in the afterlife.

15 posted on 10/06/2010 8:41:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: a fool in paradise

I should but that book. Johnny convinced Joey to voted for Reagan? I remember reading a NY Times review of The Filth & The Fury video by Julien Temple about the Sex Pistols and Malcolm McLaren. The NY Slimes said “it was a backlash against Thatcherism” which is total nonsense. The first 3 minutes of the film/documentary - John Lydon is bashing the British Labour Party.

The Pistols were working class or really poor kids lashing out at the “elites” almost like the Tea Party.

John Lydon said that “Bodies” was neither a pro or anti abortion song it was more about personal responsibility. Sure sounds anti abortion to me. It starts as a song about a mentally disturbed girl he knew who was a fan of the band/groupie but goes into the horrors of abortion. All written by poor kids in London around age 18 to 20. 30+ years later the songs hold up.


32 posted on 10/06/2010 9:56:03 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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