[irishtenor]

.315 average, golden glove every year, all star every year, 200+ hit 10 years in a row (no one has done that ever.)

[Huck]

All-star is meaningless. The hits are great. The glove is great. I'd vote him into Cooperstown. He's got speed. For the top of the lineup, he's great. But he's got no power. Someone has to drive him in.

Lou Gehrig was a 340 lifetime hitter, with 493 taters and 1995 RBIs. Ruth--342, 714, 2213. I could go on. Willie Mays. Ted Williams. A lot of better all-around hitters than Ichiro. Ichiro is hits, speed, and leather, but not much run production. And after all, it's runs that count. 90 career home runs? Gehrig had 1888 runs score. Ichiro has 1047. Perspective, son. Perspective.