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To: ansel12

“a church can have it’s own internal rules about not recognizing a marriage within their church, but they cannot tell the people involved that they are not married outside of that particular churches confines..”

Sure they can. It’s up to the folks in question if they take the faith’s take on their marriage or whatever the state chooses to say about it. It’s just a shame gubberment can punish if folks don’t go along with their ever changing take on marriage.

“a church also cannot change marriage from a man and woman, and supersede government laws in regards to limits on marriage, such as in age, number of partners, etc.”

That’s right. Marriage is marriage, and no faith can change it. But the state also can’t do these things, just like they can’t pass a law that declares night as being day.

As regards “limits to marriage” that a state imposes and if a faith can ignore them, what would happen if a state refused to issue lisences to a particular faith in retaliation for not “marrying” folks according to the state’s ever-changing definition? Would the folks in that faith be married or not? My take on it would be that if a real marriage took place, then they would be married even if they didn’t have a piece of paper from the state saying they were. Just like folks with a piece a paper from the state saying they are married aren’t really married unless a real marriage took place.

FReegards


385 posted on 10/08/2010 7:42:30 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

No they can’t, that church “cannot tell the people involved that they are not married outside of that particular churches confines” I didn’t mean the building, I meant outside of the denomination, America recognizes their marriage.

Government has never changed on the man woman rule of marriage.

Once something is recognized by law as “marriage”, then it would exist, and would be so defined, the word marriage will mean whatever the definition is.

The Mormons had an army, and they still could not legalize polygamy in America, and were driven outside of the states, now the homosexuals and the Muslims have the libertarians to fight for them.


386 posted on 10/08/2010 8:10:32 PM PDT by ansel12
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